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Old 10-05-2016, 07:27 AM   #1
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where are notes, hightlights, bookmarks stored

If I delete a side-loaded book from my device, then add it back later, are my notes, etc restored or are they lost when the title leaves the Kindle?

It would seem a simple experiment to try except that I am heavily invested in marking up a title that I must remove temporarily to make space, and I'd rather not lose all of my notes.
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They're stored in the sidecar folder in a file with a ".mbp" extension. If you delete the book, this file will also be deleted. However, notes and highlights are also stored in the "Clippings.txt" file, and they don't get deleted from there. Copy the sidecar folder to your PC before you delete the book, and copy it back again when you put the book back again, and you'll preserve everything.
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They're stored in the sidecar folder in a file with a ".mbp" extension. If you delete the book, this file will also be deleted. However, notes and highlights are also stored in the "Clippings.txt" file, and they don't get deleted from there. Copy the sidecar folder to your PC before you delete the book, and copy it back again when you put the book back again, and you'll preserve everything.
If I delete the highlights from "Clippings.txt", can I recover the highlights in my side-loaded doc if I do what you say (ie. saving the sdr folder and copying it back to kindle when sideloading the doc again).
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If I delete the highlights from "Clippings.txt", can I recover the highlights in my side-loaded doc if I do what you say (ie. saving the sdr folder and copying it back to kindle when sideloading the doc again).
Yes, you can.
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If you use Send To Kindle to send your side-loaded doc to send to your device (and so it is stored in your Amazon cloud storage), then you can use any recent Fire, or the Kindle app on Android or iOS to Export your 'notebook'.

For some reason, this option is not available on Kindle (even though your notes will be stored there), and it won't work with side-loaded files since the implementation requires syncing notes to the cloud, where a server process gathers them up and sends them as an email attachment to the email address that you use for Amazon.
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If you use Send To Kindle to send your side-loaded doc to send to your device [...], then you can use any recent Fire, or the Kindle app on Android or iOS to Export your 'notebook'.

For some reason, this option is not available on Kindle [...], and it won't work with side-loaded files since the implementation requires syncing notes to the cloud, where a server process gathers them up and sends them as an email attachment to the email address that you use for Amazon.
By that does you mean that in the Kindle's mobile apps (fire, android, ios) the notes/highlights can be synced among the apps? but this is not possible to do with Kindle device nor sideloaded documents?
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If you use Send To Kindle to send your side-loaded doc to send to your device (and so it is stored in your Amazon cloud storage), then you can use any recent Fire, or the Kindle app on Android or iOS to Export your 'notebook'.

For some reason, this option is not available on Kindle (even though your notes will be stored there), and it won't work with side-loaded files since the implementation requires syncing notes to the cloud, where a server process gathers them up and sends them as an email attachment to the email address that you use for Amazon.
Thanks for illuminating this. Questions:

1) Let's say I have side loaded a file as a AZW3 format to my Kindle Paperwhite and made some highlights. Now I'm done with the book and want to use my Kindle fire tablet to export my notebook. Can this be done? Or because it's a AZW3 format I cannot? I.e. what formats are allowed.. .mobi only? What's the best way of getting highlights off my Kindle paperwhite?

2) Let's say I want to read a book on both my paperwhite and my fire tablet. Will my progress AND my highlights be synchronized across devices?

3) As an aside; where do you folks store all your book notes? As I start to read more, I like taking notes/highlighting passages but I don't want it just go away forever. I find myself reading more sideloaded books so the Amazon highlights feature isn't really an option.

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Thanks for illuminating this. Questions:

1) Let's say I have side loaded a file as a AZW3 format to my Kindle Paperwhite and made some highlights. Now I'm done with the book and want to use my Kindle fire tablet to export my notebook. Can this be done? Or because it's a AZW3 format I cannot? I.e. what formats are allowed.. .mobi only? What's the best way of getting highlights off my Kindle paperwhite?

2) Let's say I want to read a book on both my paperwhite and my fire tablet. Will my progress AND my highlights be synchronized across devices?

3) As an aside; where do you folks store all your book notes? As I start to read more, I like taking notes/highlighting passages but I don't want it just go away forever. I find myself reading more sideloaded books so the Amazon highlights feature isn't really an option.

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If you side-load I do not think there is any way to sync notes between devices (I think with calibre ‘ASIN hack’ you can get reading position to sync but have never used that myself).

If you use Send To Kindle and store in cloud then your highlights and notes will be backed up there, and you can export them with any of the tablet apps.
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Is there any compelling reason to prefer a side loaded AZW3 format over the dual format mobi sent to a Kindle email address?

The only one I can see is that you get the 'document' to appear as a bonafide book on the Kindle. Another one is it seems I can only get real page numbers by using the AZW3 format.

It seems like there are way more upsides to using the mobi format (sync of reading progress and highlights across multiple devices)
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Well it's all subjective.. to me having page numbers (and cover thumbnails) is bigger upside than having sync between multiple devices. But I don't read the same book on multiple devices (I spend maybe an hour a year reading on my mobile :d ), I do all my reading on my Kindle at home at evenings... and I don't highlight (unless I see formatting errors that need fixing).

Sideloading via USB vs "emailing" lets you control books CDE_Type flag and ASIN... and that opens some extra opportunities (that enable extra features PDOCs don't get) like faking your converted book's ASIN to match the same book sold on Kindle Store and thus being able to use "mark book as read on Goodreads".
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Seems like the other benefit is the ability to use the xray generator. I think it only works for side loaded azw3 and not side loaded mobi right

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