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View Poll Results: Will e-readers make your library obsolete?
Yes, happily so. It's called progress. 178 60.14%
Yes, unfortunately. The trend is unavoidable. 23 7.77%
No, I'd always miss getting newsprint on my fingers. 95 32.09%
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:00 AM   #136
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it would be interesting to 'see' what has a longer life span for the future .... paper for more books, or electricity to run readers ....
Information storage doesn't have to be powered by electricity... it just so happens that that's what we've been using for the past century or so, and aren't really familiar with any other method of power generation... but that's for another thread, I think...
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:13 AM   #137
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:18 AM   #138
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Hopefully, technology will evolve to find something even better than electricity! It was a great invention from the last century, but it is that power source that is still keeping us connected to the wall!

When I talk about technology with my elementary students, I show them a quill and inkwell, a pencil, a ball point pen, a typewriter and a computer. It helps them see the progression of technology over the years. Each one was an improvement over the other. I see ebooks in the same way.
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This is why I find the Amish fascinating, the ability to borrow certain technologies or neglect others..

Another example would be a pack of good sled dogs being more reliable than a snowmobile when a crucial part fails on a snowy trail in the middle of nowhere. Now the native has no snowmobile and lacks the ability to build a sled or care for the dogs.

"Improvement" is relative, speed and efficiency is another matter. Sometimes it's about speed. The horse was replaced by the auto, but at what cost to the planet environmentally? No I'm not a Luddite, and have no intentions of going to live on a farm
Just pointing out that progress is not always linear.

Way off topic sorry...
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:28 AM   #139
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This is why I find the Amish fascinating, the ability to borrow certain technologies or neglect others..

Another example would be a pack of good sled dogs being more reliable than a snowmobile when a crucial part fails on a snowy trail in the middle of nowhere. Now the native has no snowmobile and lacks the ability to build a sled or care for the dogs.

"Improvement" is relative, speed and efficiency is another matter. Sometimes it's about speed. The horse was replaced by the auto, but at what cost to the planet environmentally? No I'm not a Luddite, and have no intentions of going to live on a farm
Just pointing out that progress is not always linear.

Way off topic sorry...

Hear Hear!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:49 AM   #140
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Hopefully, technology will evolve to find something even better than electricity! It was a great invention from the last century, but it is that power source that is still keeping us connected to the wall!

When I talk about technology with my elementary students, I show them a quill and inkwell, a pencil, a ball point pen, a typewriter and a computer. It helps them see the progression of technology over the years. Each one was an improvement over the other. I see ebooks in the same way.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:50 AM   #141
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Hopefully, technology will evolve to find something even better than electricity! It was a great invention from the last century, but it is that power source that is still keeping us connected to the wall!
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<nitpick>The century before that actually (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_electrical_engineering) - and only with regards to the the practical implementation, but I guess that was what you meant </nitpick>
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I voted "no" as while I believe that ebooks will eventually cover most of the new publishing in the future (at least as an option), for now my library is safe as most of what I actually purchase are reference books (travel, etc.) which are changed frequently. Since I like to archive past editions for reference, keeping the paper versions won't go away any time soon.

However, for my pleasure reading, to keep costs down I'd switched almost exclusively to libraries in the past few years, and ebooks will continue that trend. While my physical library grows slowly, I look forward to my electronic one to grow in leaps and bounds.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:48 PM   #143
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Count me as hanging out to get rid of almost all the dead tree books I have. At this stage I get free dead tree books from friends, read them and pass them on. The sooner I can dump my remaining deadwood the better, with very few exceptions. I have a few kids books that I will probably keep (fewer than ten) and that's it. I'm still griding through the scan-correct-save process but it's very slow work.
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Gutenberg tried to make his printed books look like hand written manuscripts, so they could reside next to the hand written manuscripts of the time.

We are trying to make our ebooks more paper like so they can be accepted along side the paper books of today.

There's a parallel here.



The only downsides to ebooks are: (1) ridiculous DRM that forbids me from selling used books, and (2) possible failure during (for example) power outages.

I said possible, not probable.

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<snip> I don't think of the ebooks as replacing my library or making it obsolete. They're part of my library -- the part that's growing the fastest because shelf space isn't an issue with ebooks. <snip>
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The post in this thread that most articulately expresses my position, thank you!

Many science fiction stories have predicted the demise of the printed book and the reverence that the surviving books will receive in the future. The books on the shelves are old and dear friends and I will not part with them if I can avoid it. Some of the books I hope to have in my Kindle will become new and valued friends who's survival will be much easier to insure.



Edit: My first ebook purchase from Amazon for my Kindle 2 was ERB's Huge 50+ collection. I had this entire series as hard bound books a half century ago but lost them through the extingencies of time. I nearly cried when I discovered them on Amazon and nearly cried again when I discovered HarryT's Tom Swift Omnibus collection since I had lost those too. Now both will have pride of place as the first books on my ebook shelves.
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:51 PM   #146
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A message to any of you lot that despise keeping dead-tree copies on your shelves. If you have antiquarian or nicely bound editions, Easton Press, Franklin Library, Folio Society, Arkham House, etc. I would gladly send you my address to ship them to... No I can't afford to purchase them at present, but I would certainly be happy providing you with a nice disposal service for those unwanted texts.

Just PM to arrange something...

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A message to any of you lot that despise keeping dead-tree copies on your shelves. If you have antiquarian or nicely bound editions, Easton Press, Franklin Library, Folio Society, Arkham House, etc. I would gladly send you my address to ship them to... No I can't afford to purchase them at present, but I would certainly be happy providing you with a nice disposal service for those unwanted texts.

Just PM to arrange something...

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I'll take them instead Except the Easton Press or new stuff. I like the old books
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:17 PM   #148
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A message to any of you lot that despise keeping dead-tree copies on your shelves. If you have antiquarian or nicely bound editions, Easton Press, Franklin Library, Folio Society, Arkham House, etc. I would gladly send you my address to ship them to... No I can't afford to purchase them at present, but I would certainly be happy providing you with a nice disposal service for those unwanted texts.

Just PM to arrange something...

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How can you find a clear conscience? It is still unethical you know, even if you did get rid of the dead tree body!

Best not to buy paper in the first place.

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You do good work. How about focusing more on kitchens?

I'm not getting an E-kitchen.
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How can you find a clear conscience? It is still unethical you know, even if you did get rid of the dead tree body!

Best not to buy paper in the first place.

Perfect!!!! Especially toilet paper......think of the poor trees that died so that we could wipe our.......our....so that we could be clean!!!

BOYCOTT TOILET PAPER!!!
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