No startup apps on 1.8.2 firmware

colibris79 · 09-12-2017, 07:34 AM

Hi everyone.
I just updated my C67ML Carta2 to the latest firmware, 1.8.2. It works fine but a few apps that were running on startup are not doing it anymore. I have to start them manually everytime. I was using them for battery saving and were working pretty well (Greenify, No-frills, Barshortcuts...) I have tried to flash again firmware 1.8.1 and update to 1.8.2 but it didn't change anything. I also tried to move these apps to system/app or downloaded a few apps to start automatically apps on startup but with the same result.
Any suggestions? I really want these apps to open on startup.

sharkcow · 09-15-2017, 04:23 PM

I saw something similar with 1.8.2 on my Kepler. It's in repair right now but after I get it back I'll do some testing.

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downeaster59 · 09-15-2017, 10:10 PM

Seeing these posts, I thought I'd try to see if I could get Button Savior to launch at startup on my new K-Pro. I installed Tasker and set up a profile so that it would launch Button Savior at startup. It didn't work. Tasker itself can't launch at startup. This is odd, because I had Tasker set up on my Onyx Boox C67ML Carta. It ran properly.

I'll need to play around with my K-Pro a little more.

This isn't a huge issue, as all the apps work when I manually start them. But it would be nice if they could start at boot automatically!

Edit: I found my C67ML Carta. It is also running 1.8.2. I can't get Button Savior to load at startup there, either!

colibris79 · 09-16-2017, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

I saw something similar with 1.8.2 on my Kepler. It's in repair right now but after I get it back I'll do some testing.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster59

This isn't a huge issue, as all the apps work when I manually start them. But it would be nice if they could start at boot automatically!

Edit: I found my C67ML Carta. It is also running 1.8.2. I can't get Button Savior to load at startup there, either!

Thanks guys for answering and confirming this. I wrote to Onyx asking about it but they didn't answer. I think I'm going back to 1.8.1 since after a few days of testing I didn't see that much of improvement. Does anyone know if I can use the unzip.zip to downgrade? It would save some time.

colibris79 · 09-18-2017, 04:11 AM

I've tried with the update.zip from 1.8.1 but a couple of things don't work properly (kind of a "dirty flash" symptom I guess). I will have to do a clean flash with factory tools then.

sharkcow · 09-18-2017, 08:53 AM

Just got a new Kepler as replacement for my broken one. It came pre-installed with 1.8.2, startup apps didn't work (I also absolutely _need_ button savior). Downgraded to 1.8.1 via Mfg Tool and startup apps work. I will complain to Onyx in hope they fix this in future releases.

sharkcow

colibris79 · 09-18-2017, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

Just got a new Kepler as replacement for my broken one. It came pre-installed with 1.8.2, startup apps didn't work (I also absolutely _need_ button savior). Downgraded to 1.8.1 via Mfg Tool and startup apps work. I will complain to Onyx in hope they fix this in future releases.

sharkcow

Good, the more the better. I already did write to them.

colibris79 · 09-19-2017, 01:40 AM

After going back to 1.8.1 I was getting the annoying pop-up message: "please check the pre-installed books, dictionary and tts". It was reported here but I couldn't find the solution (since opening the manual, the dictionary and the tts settings didn't work for me), so I post it here. Just disable /system/app/MediaFloat.apk and in the app drawer, opened options and cleared test apps

sharkcow · 09-19-2017, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colibris79

Good, the more the better. I already did write to them.

Got a reply today asking what kind of apps I'm talking about...

colibris79 · 09-19-2017, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

Got a reply today asking what kind of apps I'm talking about...

Great. Then you got more than I did

. Let's hope they listen...

sharkcow · 09-19-2017, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colibris79

Great. Then you got more than I did

. Let's hope they listen...

So here's Onyx' confirmation they deliberately disabled the feature:

Quote:

Dear Sharkow,

Sorry, it's the setting for V1.8.2, in order to increase the boot speed of the device, the third party apps are not allowed to start automatically.

I replied that I don't care about startup time and that others have also complained. Let's see what the next release brings...

sharkcow · 09-19-2017, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

So here's Onyx' confirmation they deliberately disabled the feature:

I replied that I don't care about startup time and that others have also complained. Let's see what the next release brings...

Wow, I guess I got lucky and got hold of a very active support guy today:

Quote:

Dear Sharkcow,

Thank you for your suggestion, I'll pass on to the R&D staff.

colibris79 · 09-19-2017, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

So here's Onyx' confirmation they deliberately disabled the feature:

I replied that I don't care about startup time and that others have also complained. Let's see what the next release brings...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

Wow, I guess I got lucky and got hold of a very active support guy today:

mdp · 09-19-2017, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkcow

So here's Onyx' confirmation they deliberately disabled the feature:

These things should be optional: configurations that improve something breaking something else should be a checkbox in the preferences.

If you wish to convey...

plusz · 09-19-2017, 05:01 PM

Quick question, where do you get firmware 1.8.1 with MfgTool from?

09-12-2017, 07:34 AM	#1
colibris79 Zealot Posts: 141 Karma: 1089 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Sony T1, Onyx C67ML, Poke 4, Boyue Paper/Likebook	No startup apps on 1.8.2 firmware Hi everyone. I just updated my C67ML Carta2 to the latest firmware, 1.8.2. It works fine but a few apps that were running on startup are not doing it anymore. I have to start them manually everytime. I was using them for battery saving and were working pretty well (Greenify, No-frills, Barshortcuts...) I have tried to flash again firmware 1.8.1 and update to 1.8.2 but it didn't change anything. I also tried to move these apps to system/app or downloaded a few apps to start automatically apps on startup but with the same result. Any suggestions? I really want these apps to open on startup. Last edited by colibris79; 09-12-2017 at 08:19 AM.

09-15-2017, 10:10 PM	#3
downeaster59 Wizard Posts: 1,251 Karma: 2957301 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Rochester, NY Device: Boox Go 10.3, Kobo Libra 2	Seeing these posts, I thought I'd try to see if I could get Button Savior to launch at startup on my new K-Pro. I installed Tasker and set up a profile so that it would launch Button Savior at startup. It didn't work. Tasker itself can't launch at startup. This is odd, because I had Tasker set up on my Onyx Boox C67ML Carta. It ran properly. I'll need to play around with my K-Pro a little more. This isn't a huge issue, as all the apps work when I manually start them. But it would be nice if they could start at boot automatically! Edit: I found my C67ML Carta. It is also running 1.8.2. I can't get Button Savior to load at startup there, either! Last edited by downeaster59; 09-15-2017 at 10:36 PM.

09-19-2017, 01:40 AM	#8
colibris79 Zealot Posts: 141 Karma: 1089 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Sony T1, Onyx C67ML, Poke 4, Boyue Paper/Likebook	After going back to 1.8.1 I was getting the annoying pop-up message: "please check the pre-installed books, dictionary and tts". It was reported here but I couldn't find the solution (since opening the manual, the dictionary and the tts settings didn't work for me), so I post it here. Just disable /system/app/MediaFloat.apk and in the app drawer, opened options and cleared test apps Last edited by colibris79; 09-24-2017 at 11:24 PM.

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09-15-2017, 04:23 PM	#2
sharkcow Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 90 Join Date: Aug 2016 Device: Onyx Boox Kepler Pro	I saw something similar with 1.8.2 on my Kepler. It's in repair right now but after I get it back I'll do some testing. Gesendet von meinem TF700T mit Tapatalk

09-18-2017, 04:11 AM	#5
colibris79 Zealot Posts: 141 Karma: 1089 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Sony T1, Onyx C67ML, Poke 4, Boyue Paper/Likebook	I've tried with the update.zip from 1.8.1 but a couple of things don't work properly (kind of a "dirty flash" symptom I guess). I will have to do a clean flash with factory tools then.

09-18-2017, 08:53 AM	#6
sharkcow Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 90 Join Date: Aug 2016 Device: Onyx Boox Kepler Pro	Just got a new Kepler as replacement for my broken one. It came pre-installed with 1.8.2, startup apps didn't work (I also absolutely _need_ button savior). Downgraded to 1.8.1 via Mfg Tool and startup apps work. I will complain to Onyx in hope they fix this in future releases. sharkcow

09-19-2017, 05:01 PM	#15
plusz Addict Posts: 384 Karma: 50008 Join Date: Feb 2017 Device: 13.3" Boox Max2, 7" Kobo H2O	Quick question, where do you get firmware 1.8.1 with MfgTool from?