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HarryT · 08-07-2017, 04:15 PM

It's what you're used to, Jon. "Right" is whatever you grew up with. That's a disadvantage of audiobooks, of course; spelling differences are much less jarring than pronunciation differences.

JSWolf · 08-07-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

It's what you're used to, Jon. "Right" is whatever you grew up with. That's a disadvantage of audiobooks, of course; spelling differences are much less jarring than pronunciation differences.

If I was listening to an audiobook with those sorts of pronunciations, it would take me out of the story.

HarryT · 08-07-2017, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If I was listening to an audiobook with those sorts of pronunciations, it would take me out of the story.

Precisely my point. That's probably why there are different British and American English versions of so many audiobooks.

pwalker8 · 08-30-2017, 09:27 PM

I did hear a rather startling mispronunciation in Hell's Foundations Quiver the other day. discipline (i.e. training troups) was pronounced Disciple-in (as in the 12 disciples). It rather surprised me, because the narrator is normally very, very good.

badgoodDeb · 08-30-2017, 09:33 PM

Any chance the word was hyphenated in the copy he was reading from? That can throw me off for some words, even not reading outloud. You know, you start down one mental pronunciation path, only to find that the ending makes it a whole different word?

pwalker8 · 09-01-2017, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Any chance the word was hyphenated in the copy he was reading from? That can throw me off for some words, even not reading outloud. You know, you start down one mental pronunciation path, only to find that the ending makes it a whole different word?

It's entirely possible. I was just a bit surprised that they didn't catch that and have him re-read the passage. It didn't take away from the enjoyment of the book, like I said the narrator is very, very good. It just surprised me.

Crowl · 09-05-2017, 10:15 AM

One thing that I find very jarring is when you are listening to a series and the pronunciation changes from book to book, either due to a narrator change or presumably them being corrected after making the mistake in an earlier book.

A particularly glaring example for me was Trudi Canavan's Black Magician Trilogy where the narrator changed for the 3rd book and randomly decided the hero could be Sonia rather than the Sonea of the first two books.

FizzyWater · 09-05-2017, 09:17 PM

Had a similar problem with Gail Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series. However, if I remember correctly, it was something prompted by the author. She has a character named Akeldama. In the first book, it was read as uh-KEEL-duh-muh. Second and following books, it because ACK-el-DAHM-uh. She had decided that later in the series, a new character was going to call him "Dama", (sounds like llama) so she wanted the pronunciation to match on the full name.

I very much enjoyed the way Emily Gray, the narrator, read this series. I never could get into the followup books because of the new narrator's style.

JSWolf · 09-11-2017, 11:05 AM

I'm listening to The Rise and Fall of the D.O.D.O. and the reader made a rather big blunder. where the books shows ROTC, the reader says rotsee instead of R.O.T.C. like it should be pronounced.

pwalker8 · 09-11-2017, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm listening to The Rise and Fall of the D.O.D.O. and the reader made a rather big blunder. where the books shows ROTC, the reader says rotsee instead of R.O.T.C. like it should be pronounced.

I've heard a lot of people use rotsee rather than R.O.T.C. When I was in college, back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, one of my roomate's friends was known as Rotsee Ray because he was in the R.O.T.C.

HarryT · 09-11-2017, 12:05 PM

I wonder if that pronunciation perhaps has a negative implication? I read a book recently in which a member of the ROTC was referred to by his detractors as a "Rot-C Nazi".

Catlady · 09-11-2017, 06:29 PM

I've never heard "rot-see." I would be baffled by it.

I was recently catching up on a series set on the British homefront during WWII; the books don't all have the same narrator. I noticed one narrator saying "waff" for WAAF, while another said "W-A-A-F." I doubt I would have noticed if I hadn't been listening to the books in rapid succession.

JSWolf · 09-11-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

I've heard a lot of people use rotsee rather than R.O.T.C. When I was in college, back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth, one of my roomate's friends was known as Rotsee Ray because he was in the R.O.T.C.

I was reading along to the audiobook and if I wasn't, I'd not have known what was being said. Rot-C just sounds wrong and most people would have no idea what it was that was being said.

You would not say my5 for MI-5. You would not say fabi for FBI. So why would you say rot-c for ROTC?

tubemonkey · 09-11-2017, 06:55 PM

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You would not say fabi for FBI.

Correct; I'd say fibi because the FBI is not fab

badgoodDeb · 09-11-2017, 07:10 PM

Rot-see was quite common when I was in college and knew some ROTC people. Mid west (USA) in case that matters.

09-05-2017, 09:17 PM	#98
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	Had a similar problem with Gail Carriger's Parasol Protectorate series. However, if I remember correctly, it was something prompted by the author. She has a character named Akeldama. In the first book, it was read as uh-KEEL-duh-muh. Second and following books, it because ACK-el-DAHM-uh. She had decided that later in the series, a new character was going to call him "Dama", (sounds like llama) so she wanted the pronunciation to match on the full name. I very much enjoyed the way Emily Gray, the narrator, read this series. I never could get into the followup books because of the new narrator's style. Last edited by FizzyWater; 09-07-2017 at 09:36 PM. Reason: fumble-finger typing

08-07-2017, 04:15 PM	#91
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's what you're used to, Jon. "Right" is whatever you grew up with. That's a disadvantage of audiobooks, of course; spelling differences are much less jarring than pronunciation differences.

08-30-2017, 09:27 PM	#94
pwalker8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2	I did hear a rather startling mispronunciation in Hell's Foundations Quiver the other day. discipline (i.e. training troups) was pronounced Disciple-in (as in the 12 disciples). It rather surprised me, because the narrator is normally very, very good.

08-30-2017, 09:33 PM	#95
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,574 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Any chance the word was hyphenated in the copy he was reading from? That can throw me off for some words, even not reading outloud. You know, you start down one mental pronunciation path, only to find that the ending makes it a whole different word?

09-05-2017, 10:15 AM	#97
Crowl Wizard Posts: 1,340 Karma: 1160346 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Southport, GB Device: Kindle Voyage, PW Signature edition	One thing that I find very jarring is when you are listening to a series and the pronunciation changes from book to book, either due to a narrator change or presumably them being corrected after making the mistake in an earlier book. A particularly glaring example for me was Trudi Canavan's Black Magician Trilogy where the narrator changed for the 3rd book and randomly decided the hero could be Sonia rather than the Sonea of the first two books.

09-11-2017, 11:05 AM	#99
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,782 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I'm listening to The Rise and Fall of the D.O.D.O. and the reader made a rather big blunder. where the books shows ROTC, the reader says rotsee instead of R.O.T.C. like it should be pronounced.

09-11-2017, 12:05 PM	#101
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I wonder if that pronunciation perhaps has a negative implication? I read a book recently in which a member of the ROTC was referred to by his detractors as a "Rot-C Nazi".

09-11-2017, 06:29 PM	#102
Catlady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip	I've never heard "rot-see." I would be baffled by it. I was recently catching up on a series set on the British homefront during WWII; the books don't all have the same narrator. I noticed one narrator saying "waff" for WAAF, while another said "W-A-A-F." I doubt I would have noticed if I hadn't been listening to the books in rapid succession.

09-11-2017, 07:10 PM	#105
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,574 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Rot-see was quite common when I was in college and knew some ROTC people. Mid west (USA) in case that matters.