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Old 08-10-2017, 08:30 AM   #2401
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It's like Microsoft and Google - they all let their customers to Interop Unlock/Root their devices.
Amazon sells Kindles following the video game console model. The devices are sold below the cost to develop and manufacture (at least initially) with the plan of them being ongoing revenue generators for the company. Microsoft certainly does not support modifications to the software running on x-box consoles.

Added: Amazon has designed it such that the best experience on the device is had when reading books sold by Amazon. One way to assure that continues to be true is by preventing modification by the customer.

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Old 08-10-2017, 10:07 AM   #2402
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Amazon sells Kindles following the video game console model. The devices are sold below the cost to develop and manufacture (at least initially) with the plan of them being ongoing revenue generators for the company. Microsoft certainly does not support modifications to the software running on x-box consoles.

Added: Amazon has designed it such that the best experience on the device is had when reading books sold by Amazon. One way to assure that continues to be true is by preventing modification by the customer.
And at least in the early days, real-time market research.
It says so, using different words, in the 'legal' document included on the DX(G) models.
You know, that document too long to be read by a human (I do not count lawyers as a member of that group for the sole purpose of this single post).
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Hi all, I want to add in here that it appears that 5.8.9.0.1 , the ones that can install ';installHtml' also probably have the amazon usbnet installed too, like the 5.7.4 did.

Does anone have a link to usage of that factory usbnet, and whether our python fiona passwords should work on it?


Since this 5.8.9.0.1 sees to be a mistake, should we recommend that people upgrade as soon as they get the jailbreak and hotfix installed?

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Old 08-11-2017, 01:31 AM   #2404
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Hi all, I want to add in here that it appears that 5.8.9.0.1 , the ones that can install ';installHtml' also probably have the amazon usbnet installed too, like the 5.7.4 did.

Does anone have a link to usage of that factory usbnet, and whether our python fiona passwords should work on it?


Since this 5.8.9.0.1 sees to be a mistake, should we recommend that people upgrade as soon as they get the jailbreak and hotfix installed?
Your friend tried with PPW3-32GB and successful with 5.8.9.0.1, right or I just misunderstand it ?
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Hi all, I want to add in here that it appears that 5.8.9.0.1 , the ones that can install ';installHtml' also probably have the amazon usbnet installed too, like the 5.7.4 did.

Does anone have a link to usage of that factory usbnet, and whether our python fiona passwords should work on it?


Since this 5.8.9.0.1 sees to be a mistake, should we recommend that people upgrade as soon as they get the jailbreak and hotfix installed?
The 'fiona passwords' are only valid for the 'diags' system.
Password login is most likely still blocked in the 'main' system. Take a look at the contents of the second field of the single line records in /etc/passwd of 'main' to be certain.

I'll update the appropriate post with the network information once I get it.
It hasn't been posted since the days of the K4 IIRC.
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Your friend tried with PPW3-32GB and successful with 5.8.9.0.1, right or I just misunderstand it ?
No results directly reported.

Initially, that user claimed he could not make the ;installHtml command to work - which is doubtful, since it works everywhere else when tried.
Nothing has been posted since he should have re-tried whatever he actually did.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:30 AM   #2407
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It may be too late for you, but I have an idea on jailbreaking the manga model.

Can you confirm your software version, and have you prevented it from ever doing a wifi update?

If you have not, this definitely will not work.

@knc1

I want to get your thoughts on this.

Right now, the manga model and the US PW3 appear to have the same download: https://s3.amazonaws.com/firmwaredow...ite_5.8.10.bin

I'm not ready to recommend anyone try this, because I have a differnt idea, but I am thinking about re-packaging this update into a FB02 package ( like the factory firmware ) , that has these three componenets.

uboot from 5.8.10 update
uImage from 5.8.10 update
rootfs from vulnerable PW3 5.7.4 update.

my understanding of the rootfs is that it should be separate from the uboot and the kernel ( uimage ), in enough ways that it should not brick the device., and the rootfs shoudl not have any hardware specific stuff that might break a pw3-32GB. I think the only significant differce between them are the board ID that are in uboot, and the amount of memory in uboot and the kernel, but I dont think any of the linux userland stuff is affected by that.

At least when I do a diff on the extracted rootfs from 5.8.1 and 5.8.10, I don't see any references to hardware.

What is your first impression on this based on gut feeling about how people have bricked before?
I just tried something similar with Kindle Tool 1.6.4 MinGW on Windows, downloaded from NiLuJe's thread and my KT2 doesn't seem to like it. Maybe it's because of the signing. I'm just going to look it up online.

I'm not sure should the bundle be FB02? I think it may be FB03 - that's what I try. The 5.8.10 Update package is FB03 and that's obviously what the Kindle likes. Would it work with FB02?

Also, the factory firmware contains user data image. I don't know should we put it in the update? I mean, the Kindle should already come with this out-of-the-box.
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Also, the factory firmware contains user data image. I don't know should we put it in the update? I mean, the Kindle should already come with this out-of-the-box.
No, it does not.
The factory firmware is only mmcblk0p1 ('main' system's partition).
User and device specific date is either outside of the partitioned areas of the eMMC device, or:
in /var/local (partition 3)
in /mnt/base-us (partition 4)

The factory firmware could not have user data in it -
Amazon would have to build an update package for each user, not for each device.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:57 AM   #2409
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No results directly reported.

Initially, that user claimed he could not make the ;installHtml command to work - which is doubtful, since it works everywhere else when tried.
Nothing has been posted since he should have re-tried whatever he actually did.
Hi,

I have the same issue. ;installHtml is not working on my kindle.

Details:
Bought it beginning of the month.
PW3 (G090 G1) version 5.8.9.0.1 (3175970011)
I did a reset before starting the steps (might be the issue..).
After having copied the main-htmlviewer.tar.gz on the kindle, i search for ;installHtml.
But it has no effect at all. (I tried resetting again, with and without registering..)

";dm" works, though.

Let me know if you want additional info.
Thanks!

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No results directly reported.

Initially, that user claimed he could not make the ;installHtml command to work - which is doubtful, since it works everywhere else when tried.
Nothing has been posted since he should have re-tried whatever he actually did.
I see. Also following the thread about PPW-32GB and he still not report from 08 Aug.

About serial JB, is it possible with Manga 32GB version ?
Is it worth to make a try ?
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can you give any more details than: "not working" ?
anything in the logs from you attempt to use it?

please post a screen shot of how the topmost level of visible USB storage looks after you place the main-htmlviewer.tar.gz file on it.

What PC OS are you using?
MacOSx?
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I see. Also following the thread about PPW-32GB and he still not report from 08 Aug.

About serial JB, is it possible with Manga 32GB version ?
Is it worth to make a try ?
I'll have the instructions fixed by the time you can get the serial port hook-up working.

The device I am reviewing at the moment:
diags system:
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System Software Version: 028-b5-diags_muscat_wario-291999
Mon Mar 21 19:16:39 PDT 2016

Kindle 5.6.1.1 028 Non-OB (~~otaVersion~~)

[root@[192_168_15_244] root]# uname -a
Linux [192_168_15_244] 3.0.35-lab126 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 21 19:16:25 PDT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
main system:
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System Software Version: 037-juno_8070001_prod_muscat_wario-311594
Mon Jan 16 07:10:58 PST 2017
com.lab126.eink.muscat.os

Kindle 5.8.7.0.1 (~~otaVersion~~)

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The factory firmware could not have user data in it -
Amazon would have to build an update package for each user, not for each device.
Excuse me, I meant "on-device demo recources" or whatever you want to call it. It includes some bitmaps for some UI elements (such as Kindle Freetime and Goodreads), some demo books, two additional fonts (for chinese users) and dictionaries.

BTW, could you please tell me the best way to call this "data.stgz" image, so that there is no reason to smack your head the next time I tell you something about it?

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The system is case sensitive, you have to use lower case when lower case is called for.
The normal start-up code tests for that file name (in the correct case).

You did not say that you where working with a Demo version of the Kindle.
But the principle is the same, there is nothing user specific in the factory images.
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I'll have the instructions fixed by the time you can get the serial port hook-up working.

The device I am reviewing at the moment:
diags system:
Code:
System Software Version: 028-b5-diags_muscat_wario-291999
Mon Mar 21 19:16:39 PDT 2016

Kindle 5.6.1.1 028 Non-OB (~~otaVersion~~)

[root@[192_168_15_244] root]# uname -a
Linux [192_168_15_244] 3.0.35-lab126 #1 PREEMPT Mon Mar 21 19:16:25 PDT 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux
main system:
Code:
System Software Version: 037-juno_8070001_prod_muscat_wario-311594
Mon Jan 16 07:10:58 PST 2017
com.lab126.eink.muscat.os

Kindle 5.8.7.0.1 (~~otaVersion~~)
Thank you !

It will take a while to prepair tools to tear-down mine.
// ;dm gives me some new "books", but I think it is log files.
Don't know if it can help.
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