Kindle ....2....? - Page 5

bwaldron · 02-14-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj2me

1. Post #3, dated 1/10/09, on this thread by Kovid says "Calibre will soon allow you to read them on devices that support the MOBI format ..." That's why I said that. I presume you know later information.

As noted above, Calibre does indeed now support .mobi output.

Chuckwade87 · 02-14-2009, 05:40 PM

Personally I own a kindle 1, and I love it. My wife owns a 505 and she enjoys her ebook device as much as i enjoy mine. However she cant find the same titles I have for my kindle for her 505. Does that mean she is going to go out and buy a kindle 2 nope. First reason is that the Whispernet still doesnt work outside the US, which sucks for me because I'm stationed in europe now. So either way if I use my kindle or my wifes 505, I still have to plug it into the computer.
The major difference is the content available to the Kindle, compared to that of the PRS 505. Amazon has more contact with publishers than Sony does (I think....). After all the PRS 505 isnt really where Sony makes there money now is it (i.e.PS3)?
Now if Amazon were to make Whispernet available to Europe, I would have pre-ordered already.

desertgrandma · 02-14-2009, 06:15 PM

Off topic, I know, but has everyone voted?

RickyMaveety · 02-14-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwaldron

As noted above, Calibre does indeed now support .mobi output.

Well, yes, that is news to me. All I ever saw was posts from Kovid giving all the reasons why Calibre would never support mobi, and so I just gave up and stopped hoping.

So, maybe I'll give the program a second look now. It honestly looked great, but had no functionality for me before.

pilotbob · 02-14-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Well, yes, that is news to me. All I ever saw was posts from Kovid giving all the reasons why Calibre would never support mobi, and so I just gave up and stopped hoping.

So, maybe I'll give the program a second look now. It honestly looked great, but had no functionality for me before.

Kovid said "he" would not add it but would accept patches. And he didn't. The *2mobi converters and the Kindle driver were donated by other mobileread members. To them we are most grateful.

BOb

daffy4u · 02-14-2009, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Kovid said "he" would not add it but would accept patches. And he didn't. The *2mobi converters and the Kindle driver were donated by other mobileread members. To them we are most grateful.

BOb

Ooh! Good to know. Thank you all, whoever you are!

T1ND3R · 02-14-2009, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckwade87

After all the PRS 505 isnt really where Sony makes there money now is it (i.e.PS3)?

Sony has posted a loss every quarter for the PS3 since it has come out. Even with this loss, they still make money off of their brand name TV's, cd players, blu-ray players, etc and so on.

In my opinion, Sony is spreading itself thin with all of these products to spend money on in R&D, and it kind of limits the amount of attention that my PRS-505 might get over their new blu-ray player or PS3 (i.e. updates, ebookstore, etc)

Amazon's main product is the Kindle. Plain and simple. They are going to perfect it. I will pick up the next model without a question.

Barcey · 02-16-2009, 11:36 AM

In the last year I've been impressed with how Sony has been demonstrating that they are listening to their ebook reading customers.

1) Updated the firmware for the PRS-505 to support ePUB
2) Offered a (token) rebate to PRS-500 customers to upgrade to the PRS-505
3) Introduced a PRS-700 with an integrated light (one of the largest complaints I've seen about e-ink)
4) Made the following quote in the Adobe announcement...

Quote:

“With support for reflowable PDF and the new EPUB format, we are able to deliver richer reading experiences to digital book lovers,” said Steve Haber, president, Digital Reading Business Division, Sony Electronics. “The Reader ships with support for Adobe Reader Mobile SDK today and allows consumers to acquire eBooks from a variety of sources, including public libraries. Our goal is to foster an open content environment that enables our customers to maximize the use and enjoyment of their Readers.”

brn_eyed_girl81 · 02-16-2009, 09:09 PM

My husband and I got each other refurbed Kindles for Christmas (thanks to the pre-Christmas Oprah sell-out one week before I went to order his as a surprise), and we love them. We knew it was likely that K2 would come out sometime after Chrstmas, either fulfilling the old orders or once those had been filled. But we knew we liked what the original model offered, so we went ahead and ordered. Sure, we're a little envious now about Kindle 2, and there are some features we like better on our originals. But we are happy and probably won't upgrade until ours are broken (hopefully a long time).

Basically, what I'm saying is don't regret getting the Sony - you picked the device you liked, you can use it, and then when it's time to upgrade, you'll know better what you're looking for in a reader. It's just the nature of technology.

And RickyMaveety, I see the guinea pirate and I'm SO STARTLED.

Ervserver · 02-17-2009, 12:45 AM

who says Amazon is making money on the Kindle?

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1ND3R

Sony has posted a loss every quarter for the PS3 since it has come out. Even with this loss, they still make money off of their brand name TV's, cd players, blu-ray players, etc and so on.

In my opinion, Sony is spreading itself thin with all of these products to spend money on in R&D, and it kind of limits the amount of attention that my PRS-505 might get over their new blu-ray player or PS3 (i.e. updates, ebookstore, etc)

Amazon's main product is the Kindle. Plain and simple. They are going to perfect it. I will pick up the next model without a question.

T1ND3R · 02-17-2009, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ervserver

who says Amazon is making money on the Kindle?

I think it's safe to assume that Amazon has made some money off of the Kindle seeing that there were a few times when it was sold out and only available as pre-order.

Maybe someone could look into this

ChelC · 02-17-2009, 11:08 AM

I love amazon, I was really biased toward the kindle, but ended up going with a Sony because I really wanted to be able to organize collections, and I didn't want to wait around for any possible bugs to be worked out in the first couple months of launch.

Mostly I'm going to be getting public domain books, but for my occasional bestseller books, I'm disappointed in not being able to use Amazon.

Do you guys think in the future they will open up to offer more formats? Or do you think they will limit the bookselling in order to boost sales of the kindle? Wouldn't it be nice if all the readers were compatible and you could just go with what you like the best and expect the same available content? In my dreams.

Eventually though, publishers will push for more formats, don't you think? Wishful thinking?

(oops, a little off topic, I thought I was starting my own thread). Sorry.

bjkel · 02-17-2009, 11:29 AM

I can't really get the kindle since I'm not in the USA but I was just reading up about the kindle 2 out of curiosity and I am floored they removed the sd slot for 2 gig of internal memory.

This would be a total deal breaker for me. I use a HTC Advantage for reading and keep all my library on it, which is slowly getting larger and larger. Getting close to 1 gig now in my library. It would drive me nuts to reach a point where I had no room left to keep all my books on a device or sorted on a sd card for it.

I realise you could still keep them on pc or redownload from Amazon but it would be a pain for me to choose what to delete and what to keep. I re read a lot.

I just had to comment. I am totally floored!

Otherwise it looks like a nice device.

T1ND3R · 02-17-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChelC

Do you guys think in the future they will open up to offer more formats? Or do you think they will limit the bookselling in order to boost sales of the kindle? Wouldn't it be nice if all the readers were compatible and you could just go with what you like the best and expect the same available content? In my dreams.

Eventually though, publishers will push for more formats, don't you think? Wishful thinking?

Honestly, I'm hoping that eventually you will be able to purchase a real book and get a code with it that gives you a free download for that book at an ebook store of your choice (kinda like movies coming with a free digital copy)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChelC

(oops, a little off topic, I thought I was starting my own thread). Sorry.

I really don't think this thread has a topic anymore

BruceS · 02-17-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1ND3R

I think it's safe to assume that Amazon has made some money off of the Kindle seeing that there were a few times when it was sold out and only available as pre-order.

Maybe someone could look into this

That still doesn't necessarily mean than Amazon is making money off of the Kindle.

If they are selling it at a price that is higher than their costs to produce it, than they are making money.

If they are selling it at a price that is lower, like DirecTV does for their receivers, than it depends on whether the average Kindle users buys enough e-books from Amazon to make up the difference.

02-17-2009, 11:08 AM	#72
ChelC Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 20 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Sony 700	Future of Amazon I love amazon, I was really biased toward the kindle, but ended up going with a Sony because I really wanted to be able to organize collections, and I didn't want to wait around for any possible bugs to be worked out in the first couple months of launch. Mostly I'm going to be getting public domain books, but for my occasional bestseller books, I'm disappointed in not being able to use Amazon. Do you guys think in the future they will open up to offer more formats? Or do you think they will limit the bookselling in order to boost sales of the kindle? Wouldn't it be nice if all the readers were compatible and you could just go with what you like the best and expect the same available content? In my dreams. Eventually though, publishers will push for more formats, don't you think? Wishful thinking? (oops, a little off topic, I thought I was starting my own thread). Sorry.

02-17-2009, 11:29 AM	#73
bjkel Connoisseur Posts: 89 Karma: 8826 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T1, Nook Color, Kobo, Kindle Voyage, Kobo Forma	I can't really get the kindle since I'm not in the USA but I was just reading up about the kindle 2 out of curiosity and I am floored they removed the sd slot for 2 gig of internal memory. This would be a total deal breaker for me. I use a HTC Advantage for reading and keep all my library on it, which is slowly getting larger and larger. Getting close to 1 gig now in my library. It would drive me nuts to reach a point where I had no room left to keep all my books on a device or sorted on a sd card for it. I realise you could still keep them on pc or redownload from Amazon but it would be a pain for me to choose what to delete and what to keep. I re read a lot. I just had to comment. I am totally floored! Otherwise it looks like a nice device. Last edited by bjkel; 02-17-2009 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Added comment

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02-14-2009, 05:40 PM	#62
Chuckwade87 Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 42 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Grafenwoeher, Germany Device: Amazon Kindle/Sony PRS 505	Personally I own a kindle 1, and I love it. My wife owns a 505 and she enjoys her ebook device as much as i enjoy mine. However she cant find the same titles I have for my kindle for her 505. Does that mean she is going to go out and buy a kindle 2 nope. First reason is that the Whispernet still doesnt work outside the US, which sucks for me because I'm stationed in europe now. So either way if I use my kindle or my wifes 505, I still have to plug it into the computer. The major difference is the content available to the Kindle, compared to that of the PRS 505. Amazon has more contact with publishers than Sony does (I think....). After all the PRS 505 isnt really where Sony makes there money now is it (i.e.PS3)? Now if Amazon were to make Whispernet available to Europe, I would have pre-ordered already.

02-14-2009, 06:15 PM	#63
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Off topic, I know, but has everyone voted?

02-16-2009, 09:09 PM	#69
brn_eyed_girl81 Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 40 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kindle	My husband and I got each other refurbed Kindles for Christmas (thanks to the pre-Christmas Oprah sell-out one week before I went to order his as a surprise), and we love them. We knew it was likely that K2 would come out sometime after Chrstmas, either fulfilling the old orders or once those had been filled. But we knew we liked what the original model offered, so we went ahead and ordered. Sure, we're a little envious now about Kindle 2, and there are some features we like better on our originals. But we are happy and probably won't upgrade until ours are broken (hopefully a long time). Basically, what I'm saying is don't regret getting the Sony - you picked the device you liked, you can use it, and then when it's time to upgrade, you'll know better what you're looking for in a reader. It's just the nature of technology. And RickyMaveety, I see the guinea pirate and I'm SO STARTLED.