Sony's new 13.3" digital paper DPTRP1 released

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

At best that point merited a brief correction before going on to answer the intended question. Instead Harry pedantically and unhelpfully answered the wrong question.

What the hell are you talking about? Harry explained precisely why devices with large screens don't have frontlights.

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by HarryT

What the hell are you talking about? Harry explained precisely why devices with large screens don't have frontlights.

Really? Nate does not see that in your answer:

Originally Posted by HarryT

The answers to your questions are:

1. No eInk device can have a backlight for the very simple reason that eInk screens are opaque, hence light cannot shine through them.

2. You transfer books to it via a program that runs on a PC or Mac.

Please read the thread for more details of #2. It really has been gone through in great detail!

[DaleDe]

I have seen several folks that don't know the difference between a backslash and a regular slash but it is important to correct them.

Dale

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

I have seen several folks that don't know the difference between a backslash and a regular slash but it is important to correct them.

Dale

After thirty years of using computers I still cannot tell you which is which - and most of the time it really doesn't matter.

[DaleDe]

You can thank microsoft for the fact that you even need to worry about a backslash. Slashes have always been used on Unix systems to separate folders and hyphens have always been used to indicate options since the early 70s. (they are still used on everything but windows including URL's. But Microsoft decided to use slashes (/) for options in their DOS so when they introduced folders sometime later they had to come up with a different symbol hence the silly backslash (\). Since they controlled the keyboard they stuck it on.

Dale

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

You can thank microsoft for the fact that you even need to worry about a backslash. Slashes have always been used on Unix systems to separate folders and hyphens have always been used to indicate options since the early 70s. (they are still used on everything but windows including URL's. But Microsoft decided to use slashes (/) for options in their DOS so when they introduced folders sometime later they had to come up with a different symbol hence the silly backslash (\). Since they controlled the keyboard they stuck it on.

Dale

Well, to give the spawn of Satan its due, microsoft copied / for options and device: notation from DEC, but not the [] and . delimiters for directory paths. In no way did they have any keyboard control when they bought a CPM clone to sell to IBM as DOS.

The \ had been used by UNIX shells and C as an escape character before Gates and Allen pirated time on the computers of others to write a BASIC interpreter, much less buy the rights to a CPM clone.

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

You can thank microsoft for the fact that you even need to worry about a backslash. Slashes have always been used on Unix systems to separate folders and hyphens have always been used to indicate options since the early 70s. (they are still used on everything but windows including URL's. But Microsoft decided to use slashes (/) for options in their DOS so when they introduced folders sometime later they had to come up with a different symbol hence the silly backslash (\). Since they controlled the keyboard they stuck it on.

Dale

ah, so the divisor is slash.

that I should be able to remember.

[Philippe D.]

Originally Posted by Nate the great

ah, so the divisor is slash.

that I should be able to remember.

Yes, rather easy to remember, at least in English. In French they are called "barre oblique" and "barre oblique inversee", and there is no easy way to remember which is the "normal" oblique... (but as with most things vaguely tech-related, people tend to use English words anyway)

[plusz]

I have watched the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQO3-gQ3CmA
and I second the reviewer, no TOC or jump to page number is a
show stopper for me. It is very surprising those features are missing.

The device is quite fast, mo more spinning ball upon document opening but the lack of natural navigation (TOC, page number) would make it much slower to use IMHO.

I'm not surprised that there is no pinch zooming. Look at the thin bezel, for sure you would be touching the screen at the edges when holding in your hand.

I'll wait for next gen competitive product

[DaleDe]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

Well, to give the spawn of Satan its due, microsoft copied / for options and device: notation from DEC, but not the [] and . delimiters for directory paths. In no way did they have any keyboard control when they bought a CPM clone to sell to IBM as DOS.

The \ had been used by UNIX shells and C as an escape character before Gates and Allen pirated time on the computers of others to write a BASIC interpreter, much less buy the rights to a CPM clone.

My error. I had temporarily forgotten about the escape character usage. Thanks for the catch. Unix has such a nice command line it is unfortunate that Microsoft messed with it some 10 years later.

Dale

[LarryNYC]

Originally Posted by DaleDe

My error. I had temporarily forgotten about the escape character usage. Thanks for the catch. Unix has such a nice command line it is unfortunate that Microsoft messed with it some 10 years later.

Dale

Such a nice command line, LOL.

Way back in time, at college, a friend did this:

rm -rf .

logged in as root, and accidentally at the root of the file system.

Unix unblinkingly destroyed the whole file system. They've taken away the ability to destroy everything so easily but it was there back in the day.

I think he might have been on a PDP-11, or a Data General MV8000, I don't recall which. It was 2am and he was tired. Should we be punished so severely for our mistakes?

Will anyone mention the seminal work done at Xerox PARC? Apple and Microsoft both ripped off the work of Alan Kay, the father of personal computing. They ripped off the windowing system but they just didn't know that they should have ripped off Smalltalk because they didn't understand it. Jobs admitted as much in an article in the NY Times a few years ago. Smalltalk was, and is, a far more interesting operating system than Unix.

[antistar]

Originally Posted by plusz

I have watched the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQO3-gQ3CmA
and I second the reviewer, no TOC or jump to page number is a
show stopper for me. It is very surprising those features are missing.

The device is quite fast, mo more spinning ball upon document opening but the lack of natural navigation (TOC, page number) would make it much slower to use IMHO.

I'm not surprised that there is no pinch zooming. Look at the thin bezel, for sure you would be touching the screen at the edges when holding in your hand.

I'll wait for next gen competitive product

You can actually jump to an approximate position in the book using the progress bar on page head, and then pinch to go to the 16-page view and choose the page you want (supposedly nearer now). Sort of dumb. Not very intuitive. But that more or less works, and not much slower at that.

[jra166]

With the DPT-RP1 being roughly the same size as the Ipad Pro 12.9, I tried this leather sleeve for the Sony. A little snug at first, but after using my hand to stretch it out, especially around the seams, the Sony now fits perfectly!

Not bad for $9.99!
https://www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Lea...r+for+iPad+Pro

Also added this for the pen sand stuck it to the sleeve.
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pencil-...-+By+ZUGU+CASE

[trugnthu]

You can use this one:
https://www.banggood.com/BOOX-MAX-Or...rmmds=category
I bought for sony dpt-s1.

[juegos]

jra166: With the DPT-RP1 being roughly the same size as the Ipad Pro 12.9, I tried this leather sleeve for the Sony. A little snug at first, but after using my hand to stretch it out, especially around the seams, the Sony now fits perfectly!

Not bad for $9.99!


Also added this for the pen sand stuck it to the sleeve.
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