Sony's new 13.3" digital paper DPTRP1 released

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Ghitulescu

If Sony does not officially sells in the UE, then the wannahaveit must expect import taxes (which would add a lot to the price).

Import taxes are not particularly high in EU countries. There will of course be VAT to pay, but that would be the case whether it was imported or bought in a store located in the EU.

[desk7]

Originally Posted by mo4co4

How you get this thing to Europe? Any european sites selling it?

B&H photovideo ships to EU.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/searc...rch=yes&sts=ps

Be careful: you have to add VAT and shipment to price. The site can estimate it for you if you simulate check-out.

[jra166]

FINALLY received my Digital Paper from B&H... and it is perfect for my needs! Easy to read, stylus is accurate, and it can replicate my chicken scratch, print all caps, what I call writing with ease. (the delay on the Boox N96 made writing impossible with my handwriting style) As someone who typically prints out 100 pages at a time just to proofread my own work, 100 pages is enough to get by between syncs. I don't miss the internet connectivity.

The only thing that would raise my view of the DPT-RP1, would be if this hack allowed me to use it as a monitor. Thank you Sony for creating MY perfect device to meet my high maintenance writing/editing needs.

[Philippe D.]

The original feature list of this device (I don't own the previous version, I am still relatively new to eink reading) looked great, but not being able to transfer files from a Linux machine is really a deal breaker for me. I am not running Windows on any of my work-related computers, and I wouldn't set up a dual boot just for the purpose of sending files to a DPT RP1; and the same goes for MacOS.

So I'll try to keep an eye on how this thing evolves, because it did look promising; but in the current state of affairs, it's very clearly not for me. (Use case was mostly carrying around my whole PDF library and annotating research papers - I'm an academic)

[YasBean]

Originally Posted by Philippe D.

The original feature list of this device (I don't own the previous version, I am still relatively new to eink reading) looked great, but not being able to transfer files from a Linux machine is really a deal breaker for me. I am not running Windows on any of my work-related computers, and I wouldn't set up a dual boot just for the purpose of sending files to a DPT RP1; and the same goes for MacOS.

So I'll try to keep an eye on how this thing evolves, because it did look promising; but in the current state of affairs, it's very clearly not for me. (Use case was mostly carrying around my whole PDF library and annotating research papers - I'm an academic)

It would be worth getting a cheap Windows 10 computer just for this. I have a Windows 10 that I use for coffe roaster control and logging, and now regularly transfer files from my Debian Linux to the Windows 10 laptop, then to the DPT-RP1. The print to Digital Paper function is great, too!

[kuromusha]

1. Does it have backlight function?
2. How do you put PDF on it? Is it simply drag and drop?

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by kuromusha

1. Does it have backlight function?
2. How do you put PDF on it? Is it simply drag and drop?

Please read the thread. All this has been gone through again and again.

[kuromusha]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Please read the thread. All this has been gone through again and again.

There are more than 700 posts. Which one?

[HarryT]

The answers to your questions are:

1. No eInk device can have a backlight for the very simple reason that eInk screens are opaque, hence light cannot shine through them.

2. You transfer books to it via a program that runs on a PC or Mac.

Please read the thread for more details of #2. It really has been gone through in great detail!

[kuromusha]

Originally Posted by HarryT

1. No eInk device can have a backlight for the very simple reason that eInk screens are opaque, hence light cannot shine through them.

That's no true. Kindle paperwhite has backlight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jBQKZ_mGg

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by kuromusha

That's no true. Kindle paperwhite has backlight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jBQKZ_mGg

No, it does not. As I said, no eInk device can have a backlight, and the fact that self-proclaimed "experts" who make YouTube videos appear not to know what a backlight actually is doesn't change that fact .

The Kindle Paperwhite has a frontlight, as do all illuminated eInk devices. Frontlights can't be used on large screens, because they (obviously!) require a light diffuser to spread the light across the screen, and light diffusers have a limit as to how large they can be. They work well on 6" screens, moderately well on 8" screens, very poorly on 9.7" screens, and nobody's even attempted to use one on a 13.3" screen.

[Philippe D.]

Originally Posted by YasBean

It would be worth getting a cheap Windows 10 computer just for this. I have a Windows 10 that I use for coffe roaster control and logging, and now regularly transfer files from my Debian Linux to the Windows 10 laptop, then to the DPT-RP1. The print to Digital Paper function is great, too!

Having an additional computer just for this, or even mostly for this, is just absurd in my mind. I'm already spending way too much time on computers, and leaving them on way too much; keeping an additional one would mean either leaving it constantly on, or turning it on specifically for this - I might as well have a dual boot laptop, and this is very clearly something I'm not ready to do to be able to use such a device (which I most likely would have to buy with my own money, despite planning on using it almost exclusively for professional purposes).

[Kumabjorn]

Originally Posted by kuromusha

That's no true. Kindle paperwhite has backlight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jBQKZ_mGg

There is a reason black warriors stay in the background. For your own peace of mind, don't take on @HarryT on the subject of backlighting and e-ink. The fact that he can still be bothered, some four or five years since all the "backlighters" began to appear speaks volumes to his tenaciousness. You will go down..

[HarryT]

It ain't rocket science. A backlight is behind the screen. A frontlight is in front of the screen. The clue's in the name .

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

There is a reason black warriors stay in the background. For your own peace of mind, don't take on @HarryT on the subject of backlighting and e-ink. The fact that he can still be bothered, some for or five years since all the "backlighters" began to appear speaks volumes to his tenaciousness. You will go down..

well, he was technically correct.

OTOH backlight has been confused with frontlight for so long that everyone knows what the word is referring to. It's not worth nitpicking any more.

At best that point merited a brief correction before going on to answer the intended question. Instead Harry pedantically and unhelpfully answered the wrong question.