Amazon Kindle - show pages left in chapter?

[BookCat]

It's simples! At least on my Paperwhite 2, to know where you are in the book:
Touch the top of the screen, so that all the icons show: at the bottom of the screen you'll see "loc 2000 of 4000" or something like that. With a finger, stroke the screen bottom upwards and a bar will appear (your current page is saved in the background and shown again as a smaller box which you can rifle through). The bar graphically indicates how far through the book you are. Just tap on the background to return to normal.
Hope this helps.

[haydnfan]

BookCat the modern UI doesn't work like that. You have an older device. If you click on the top of the screen it is the page view options that pop up on the bottom of the screen.

Besides the OP wanted to know progress in the chapter not in the book. There are multiple ways to judge progress in the book as a whole.

[Barbara1955]

Originally Posted by dordale

That's how Kobos count the "pages in chapter" that Koboy was referring to. This only works in "Kepub" files not ePubs. If you set the Kobo to show pages left in the book, it defaults to the Adobe page numbering system--but for kePubs by chapter it shows screen counts--which will change when you change the font size. I like seeing the screen count as it gives me a good idea of how long I have left in the chapter. Personally, I like it better than Kindle's "Time left in Chapter". And it's trivial to convert ePubs to kePub when trnasferring books to my Kobo readers.

Actually since I only side load epubs & I have the Pages left in book. So No its Not just on the KePub!

Kindle does have that Nice thing Called Mins left in Chapter! Try that!

[dordale]

Originally Posted by Barbara1955

Actually since I only side load epubs & I have the Pages left in book. So No its Not just on the KePub!

Kindle does have that Nice thing Called Mins left in Chapter! Try that!

Barbara--If you read my message, I believe what you are saying is what I pointed out. If you are reading KePubs, you have the choice between pages in chapter or pages in book. If you choose "pages in chapter" it actually displays the number of screens that will change when you adjust the font/margin/line spacing settings. If you choose "pages in book" it uses the Adobe page numbering system which doesn't change with adjustments to the font/margin/line spacing settings.

If you transfer ePub books to your Kobo, the only page numbering system available is the Adobe system.

I also mentioned in my original post that I like the KePub screen count for chapters better than the Kindle "minutes left in chapter" that I have on my Voyage.

[koboy]

Originally Posted by dordale

Barbara--If you read my message, I believe what you are saying is what I pointed out. If you are reading KePubs, you have the choice between pages in chapter or pages in book. If you choose "pages in chapter" it actually displays the number of screens that will change when you adjust the font/margin/line spacing settings. If you choose "pages in book" it uses the Adobe page numbering system which doesn't change with adjustments to the font/margin/line spacing settings.

If you transfer ePub books to your Kobo, the only page numbering system available is the Adobe system.

I also mentioned in my original post that I like the KePub screen count for chapters better than the Kindle "minutes left in chapter" that I have on my Voyage.

i completely agree i much prefer pages left in chapter that my Kobo let's me do by reading KePub rather than ePub, it's unfortunate my Kindle doesn't have the same option.

best wishes koboy

[koboy]

Originally Posted by Barbara1955

Actually since I only side load epubs & I have the Pages left in book. So No its Not just on the KePub!

Kindle does have that Nice thing Called Mins left in Chapter! Try that!

thanks but i much prefer Pages over Mins.

best wishes koboy

[BookCat]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

BookCat the modern UI doesn't work like that. You have an older device. If you click on the top of the screen it is the page view options that pop up on the bottom of the screen.

Besides the OP wanted to know progress in the chapter not in the book. There are multiple ways to judge progress in the book as a whole.

When you say "modern UI" do you mean on more recent iterations of the Paperwhite, or on Kindle's newer ereaders?

I'm the kind of person who hangs onto technology until it's no longer satisfactory. I bought the Paperwhite 2 in 2014 (I think) to replace a very old, slow, Sony PRS 505!!

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by BookCat

Touch the top of the screen, so that all the icons show: at the bottom of the screen you'll see "loc 2000 of 4000" or something like that. With a finger, stroke the screen bottom upwards and a bar will appear (your current page is saved in the background and shown again as a smaller box which you can rifle through). The bar graphically indicates how far through the book you are. Just tap on the background to return to normal.

That sounds like how the latest firmware works, except for one detail. After you touch the top of the screen the bottom should have two icons. The one of the left activates single-page flip and the one of the right activates multi-page flip. Instead of swiping up from the bottom you just touch one of those icons. What you describe as "your current page is saved in the background and shown again as a smaller box" is single-page flip. (The multi-page flip icon will only be active for books with enhanced typesetting - KFX format.)

[BookCat]

jhowell: thanks for clearing that up. I prefer my version even though it seems harder to regulate how many pages you 'flip through' at a time.

[haydnfan]

Originally Posted by BookCat

When you say "modern UI" do you mean on more recent iterations of the Paperwhite, or on Kindle's newer ereaders?

Voyage, PW 3 etc. basically every model after yours. I prefer the old way too, I never use page flip.

[knc1]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

BookCat the modern UI doesn't work like that. You have an older device. If you click on the top of the screen it is the page view options that pop up on the bottom of the screen.

Besides the OP wanted to know progress in the chapter not in the book. There are multiple ways to judge progress in the book as a whole.

You don't mention which version of the Paperwhite.
But -
It depends on the firmware version you are running.
If you have a PW-1, then the most recent is 5.6.1.1 (which you seem to be describing).
If you have a PW-2 or newer device, you could be running the most recent firmware version - 5.8.9.0.2
There have been a lot of changes to the user interface over that time period.

[haydnfan]

Originally Posted by knc1

You don't mention which version of the Paperwhite.

Because BookCat did. It helps to read all of the posts.

But -
It depends on the firmware version you are running.
If you have a PW-1, then the most recent is 5.6.1.1 (which you seem to be describing).
If you have a PW-2 or newer device, you could be running the most recent firmware version - 5.8.9.0.2
There have been a lot of changes to the user interface over that time period.

Your post is confusing and I think this is because you didn't really read through all of the posts.

I don't own a PW 1 or 2 anymore. I sold one and gave the other to my Father. BookCat described a UI that doesn't match the UI as I currently know it from my PW 3 and Voyage, which made me think that her PW 2 did not get the same page flip update that the modern Kindles enjoy.

Are you asserting that is incorrect and she merely has to update her firmware? Or are you speculating that if she did update her firmware she would have those features? You do realize that page flip firmware update came out more than a year ago? She would have to keep her Kindle offline in all of that time in order to not have it if it were available. Could be true, some posters do that but I find it unlikely.

[knc1]

Originally Posted by haydnfan

Because BookCat did. It helps to read all of the posts.



Your post is confusing and I think this is because you didn't really read through all of the posts.

I don't own a PW 1 or 2 anymore. I sold one and gave the other to my Father. BookCat described a UI that doesn't match the UI as I currently know it from my PW 3 and Voyage, which made me think that her PW 2 did not get the same page flip update that the modern Kindles enjoy.

Are you asserting that is incorrect and she merely has to update her firmware? Or are you speculating that if she did update her firmware she would have those features? You do realize that page flip firmware update came out more than a year ago? She would have to keep her Kindle offline in all of that time in order to not have it if it were available. Could be true, some posters do that but I find it unlikely.

My post might be confusing, but not as confusing as claiming that it is related to the hardware model.
The user interface is determined by the firmware not by the hardware.

Her's fits the condition of: "If you have a PW-2 or newer, you could be running the most current firmware. (>>but you are not, so you can fix it if you wish<<).
I left out the qualifying phrase because I was running low on 'snarky' that day.

Since she did not provide the firmware version or Kindle model, I had to write that carefully to exclude the version(s) that can not provide the page flip feature that other people describe as: "modern kindles"

Yes, it is entirely possible -
I have a KT3 (8th generation Kindle Basic) which is still running the firmware it was originally shipped with on day -1 (I received it the day before the advertised release (day 0) date).
That includes shopping in the Amazon store, having books delivered, syncing the device with my account ...

And yes, I have used the dump messages command (;dm) to dump and read the messages to learn why that is happening.
I know why, but do not want to publicize Lab126's mistake.

[koboy]

Originally Posted by knc1

My post might be confusing, but not as confusing as claiming that it is related to the hardware model.
The user interface is determined by the firmware not by the hardware.

Her's fits the condition of: "If you have a PW-2 or newer, you could be running the most current firmware. (>>but you are not, so you can fix it if you wish<<).
I left out the qualifying phrase because I was running low on 'snarky' that day.

Since she did not provide the firmware version or Kindle model, I had to write that carefully to exclude the version(s) that can not provide the page flip feature that other people describe as: "modern kindles"

Yes, it is entirely possible -
I have a KT3 (8th generation Kindle Basic) which is still running the firmware it was originally shipped with on day -1 (I received it the day before the advertised release (day 0) date).
That includes shopping in the Amazon store, having books delivered, syncing the device with my account ...

And yes, I have used the dump messages command (;dm) to dump and read the messages to learn why that is happening.
I know why, but do not want to publicize Lab126's mistake.

of course none of the above as absolutely anything to do with my original post.

best wishes koboy

[BookCat]

This is entirely off-topic, but to clear up a few things:
I mentioned the model in my first post and if you look under my avatar you'll see the ereaders I have - a Sony 505 (hardly used now) and a Paperwhite 2.

The Paperwhite 2 is in permanent aeroplane mode, because I don't like wi-fi, it gives me a headache, and have other means of getting the internet to my computer (home plugs). I contacted Amazon about this when I purchased the Paperwhite TWO, and they registered it by phone. I transfer all books, including those bought from Amazon via USB. I do lose some function, like collections and vocabulary builder etc.

So it has the original firmware, but I'm now confused about what this has to do with the UI. From what others have described, I'd prefer to leave it as it is.

The OP has objected to this off-topic discussion, so maybe we should go back to helping him.

Thanks haydnfan for informing knc1 of what I actually said.