(Free PDF) No Fear: Growing up in a risk averse society - Page 2

Patricia · 02-15-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jj2me

Have I missed something, or is this download not readable on a mobile e-book reader? It's only offered in 2-page format. Maybe this should be posted in the StationaryRead forum? Or LaptopRead forum?

It's a pdf file. You can choose whether to have one or two pages to view, by using the view menu on your computer. And the Sony Reader will take pdfs, as will the iliads.

Nate the great · 02-15-2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj2me

Have I missed something, or is this download not readable on a mobile e-book reader? It's only offered in 2-page format. Maybe this should be posted in the StationaryRead forum? Or LaptopRead forum?

I can read this on my Airpanel 100. So can anyone who has an Iliad or DR1000. Also, I would have thought that the text only version would reflow nicely on your 505. If not, then perhaps you should consider getting an ebook reader that is less format limited.

jj2me · 02-15-2009, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

I would have thought that the text only version would reflow nicely on your 505. If not, then perhaps you should consider getting an ebook reader that is less format limited.

Verdict: e-book reader is not format limited. E-book reader *owner* was the problem.

Patricia and Nate: Thanks much! The answer to my question, "Have I missed something..." is a definite "Yes." I just assumed when I saw two pages that somehow it wouldn't work. How many ebooks have I passed on because they showed two pages? Thanks again for correcting my bad assumption. Both versions display perfectly on the 505.

Patricia · 02-15-2009, 01:55 PM

Glad to be of help. jj2me.

NB You can also tweak the size of your PDF viewing window by pulling with the mouse on the botton right-hand corner. I like a single-page view using about half the computer screen. So I adjust the window size and use both the view features and the little + or - buttons until it suits me. This helps a lot when attempting to read a PDF on a computer.

basschick · 02-15-2009, 08:34 PM

i'm 51 and grew up in a good middle class neighborhood, but when i was 7 or 10 years old, not a single kid my age was allowed to cross a street alone, play out of site of where their mom could see them by looking out the door or talk to strangers. in fact, there was a pamphlet about not talking to strangers given out by all the local elementary schools. none of us were allowed on a bus without an adult till we were at least 12, either. and i don't recall any kind of crime ever in the neighborhood.

btw, parents when i was growing up spent a lot more time deciding on what their kids could or couldn't watch - i barely know one parent who does this today.

and one other thing - when i was growing up, only 3 of the mothers i knew worked. mothers were home with the kids, so they probably didn't need the same level of rules. now that both parents have to work, i expect there are more rules to take place of a parent who's not only there but is also not mentally wrapped up in work or cleaning and cooking frantically after a full time job.

Gudy · 02-16-2009, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick

i'm 51 and grew up in a good middle class neighborhood, but when i was 7 or 10 years old, not a single kid my age was allowed to cross a street alone, play out of site of where their mom could see them by looking out the door or talk to strangers.

See, and I'm 35, and when I was six, it was perfectly normal for me and most kids I knew to leave the apartment all by myself, cross the street to the small park and play there out of sight and without any parental supervision until it either got dark or (in summer) it was time to come home for supper. In the same vein, any child whose parents brought them to school and fetched them again after school every day would have been ridiculed as a pansy by their peers, and the parents decried as overbearing.

YMMV and all that jazz.

kazbates · 02-18-2009, 09:58 AM

It seems a lot of the differences listed here tend more toward the cultures of the countries where we live. Here in the US, we tend to go to the extremes.

Like basschick, I also lived in a "good middle class neighborhood" where everyone knew each other and watched out for each other's kids. Unfortunately, times have changed. The freedom that I had in the '60's and '70's are really not an option for kids today. That neighborhood/small town community thinking is disappearing, causing parents to need to be much more vigilant with their children's safety since they are on their own. I've lived in 4 different neighborhoods in 4 different states and none of them have had the same feeling of community that I had growing up. We barely know our neighbors. I do not allow my children to play outside in the front of our house unless I am there to watch them. Consequently, they play in our backyard where we are isolated from the rest of the community.

As for having to sign your children out of school, as an elementary educator I can pretty much guarantee that that has to do more with insurance than anything else. The school sytems fear that if anything happened to a child on the way to/from school that the parents would hold them liable. It sounds ridiculous, but unfortunately, its true. Not that the schools don't worry about the kids. We do, many times more than the parents. However, in today's litigious society, the school systems have to be doubly vigilant.
Kaz

yvanleterrible · 02-18-2009, 08:35 PM

The isolationism caused by television killed the knitting of a community.

Fledchen · 02-21-2009, 07:01 PM

Has anyone actually read the book?

Nate the great · 02-21-2009, 07:11 PM

I'm reading it right now. It's interesting.

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02-15-2009, 01:55 PM	#19
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Glad to be of help. jj2me. NB You can also tweak the size of your PDF viewing window by pulling with the mouse on the botton right-hand corner. I like a single-page view using about half the computer screen. So I adjust the window size and use both the view features and the little + or - buttons until it suits me. This helps a lot when attempting to read a PDF on a computer.

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basschick Wizard Posts: 1,096 Karma: 4695691 Join Date: May 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	i'm 51 and grew up in a good middle class neighborhood, but when i was 7 or 10 years old, not a single kid my age was allowed to cross a street alone, play out of site of where their mom could see them by looking out the door or talk to strangers. in fact, there was a pamphlet about not talking to strangers given out by all the local elementary schools. none of us were allowed on a bus without an adult till we were at least 12, either. and i don't recall any kind of crime ever in the neighborhood. btw, parents when i was growing up spent a lot more time deciding on what their kids could or couldn't watch - i barely know one parent who does this today. and one other thing - when i was growing up, only 3 of the mothers i knew worked. mothers were home with the kids, so they probably didn't need the same level of rules. now that both parents have to work, i expect there are more rules to take place of a parent who's not only there but is also not mentally wrapped up in work or cleaning and cooking frantically after a full time job.

02-18-2009, 09:58 AM	#22
kazbates Wizard Posts: 2,627 Karma: 406616 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Virginia Device: SurfacePro, SurfaceBook 2	It seems a lot of the differences listed here tend more toward the cultures of the countries where we live. Here in the US, we tend to go to the extremes. Like basschick, I also lived in a "good middle class neighborhood" where everyone knew each other and watched out for each other's kids. Unfortunately, times have changed. The freedom that I had in the '60's and '70's are really not an option for kids today. That neighborhood/small town community thinking is disappearing, causing parents to need to be much more vigilant with their children's safety since they are on their own. I've lived in 4 different neighborhoods in 4 different states and none of them have had the same feeling of community that I had growing up. We barely know our neighbors. I do not allow my children to play outside in the front of our house unless I am there to watch them. Consequently, they play in our backyard where we are isolated from the rest of the community. As for having to sign your children out of school, as an elementary educator I can pretty much guarantee that that has to do more with insurance than anything else. The school sytems fear that if anything happened to a child on the way to/from school that the parents would hold them liable. It sounds ridiculous, but unfortunately, its true. Not that the schools don't worry about the kids. We do, many times more than the parents. However, in today's litigious society, the school systems have to be doubly vigilant. Kaz

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