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Old 05-24-2017, 09:13 AM   #1996
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One more nit to mention -
The jailbreak survives if you have to switch the Kindle to "Demo Mode" to downgrade it and then switch it back to "User Mode" to upgrade it.
Been there, done that (and was the second to write it up).
But how to enable "Demo Mode" only from 'Diags' huh? Think so, there is some crappy command that can be issued from the search bar!

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Old 05-24-2017, 09:18 AM   #1997
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Then you downgrade to the special initial factory testing fw: in the case of KT3 to "5.8.0 initial" (this has a lower build version than the production fw!)
Your right!
I never noticed that and it has been almost a year now.

The 5.8.0 initial came from a "Day 0" release of the KT3 (mine).
Evidently they started producing the device (and testing in production) prior to building 5.8.1.1
But customer 5.8.1.1 was the first firmware version it shipped with.

Ref: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...deId=200203720
Scroll down to "Kindle, 8th. generation".
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But how to enable "Demo Mode" only from 'Diags' huh? Think so, there is some crappy command that can be issued from the search bar!

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Diags does not have a demo mode.

But it does have a way to just put the 5.8.7.0.1 update package from Amazon at the top of visible USB storage and then just press 'do it'.

You don't have to use manual commands to install a main image from diags - diags can do that for you.
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Your right!
I never noticed that and it has been almost a year now.

The 5.8.0 initial came from a "Day 0" release of the KT3 (mine).
Evidently they started producing the device (and testing in production) prior to building 5.8.1.1
But customer 5.8.1.1 was the first firmware version it shipped with.
I was very much surprised when I bought this KT3 black in December(!) 2016 in a Media Markt shop in Berlin, and found it still running 5.8.0 out of the box. No idea from which old store from what a far far away country these Kindles came. They just were a bargain "end of the year" offer: 50,- instead of 70,- Euros; and the small print text on the box was in "exotic" languages, interestingly NOT including German, nor French. (AFAIRC: Besides English: Russian, Spanish, Czech, Croatian, Latuvian, Chinese, etc...)

The KT3 a friend of mine got back in mid 2016 already shipped indeed with 5.8.2 or so ...


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Those must have been the "prerelease evaluation" units being cleared out.

The "prerelease evaluation" used to be marked as such but that changed (5.7.x ?? maybe ??), since then there is just a search bar command to convert such devices (and demos) to "normal resale" devices.
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Because there's never mentioned the additional detailed build number with these initial fw builds, I, on a first glance, assumed that device being a test/evaluation Kindle, and therefore hoped that I could skip the downgrade.

So, as a first step, I tried to apply the ;installHtml search command right out of the box. Didn't work. But the normal procedure did.

Unfortunately, I've thrown away the sheet of paper where I noticed the two "5.8.0" build numbers. But I'm absolutely sure that the initial factory download linked here in posting #1 had a lower build ID than mine. Though both displayed as "5.8.0"! There even might be more than these two 5.8.0 builds for the KT3...

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And #16 for overall views in this forum.
(Click the 'views' column heading to sort by number of views.)

Some of those threads are seven years old and we have 5-1/2 more weeks to go until this thread is a year old.

I certainly will be glad when Amazon/Lab126 makes this thread obsolete, I didn't know what I was in for when I volunteered to maintain it.

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And #16 for overall views in this forum.
(Click the 'views' column heading to sort by number of views.)

Some of those threads are seven years old and we have 5-1/2 more weeks to go until this thread is a year old.

I certainly will be glad when Amazon/Lab126 makes this thread obsolete, I didn't know what I was in for when I volunteered to maintain it.
Give them another 6 months or so.
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Give them another 6 months or so.
It is probably fair to guess that they are shipped from the factory in units of however many fit in a 40 foot container ship container.

Also that the factory is the last hands to touch the device until it arrives at the purchaser's door.
(Excluding non-Amazon retail outlets, which might do anything.)

And that before they are sealed in their box, they are put into "shipping mode" - which among other things prevents them from trying to update while in the box.

People are still reporting that the new devices they have purchased have 5.8.7.0.1 or earlier installed on them.
So until all of those that filled the last container (before the factory started installing something newer) are sold off, this thread may have some use.

Amazon does not publish sales figures for the Kindles.
So that is about all the 'facts' we have to go on.

I would think the factory ships (no pun intended) once a financial quarter but you may very well be correct, that there is at least 6 months worth of stock out there waiting for people to purchase them.

Now if we just had a few 'stock watchers' in Singapore (I am guessing Singapore gets first off the line, maybe even before China does) to let us know when 5.8.8 (or newer) starts showing up in the large wholesalers . . ..

For those not following my reasoning:
A major industry in Singapore is the sale (wholesale and retail) of electronic goods.
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It is probably fair to guess that they are shipped from the factory in units of however many fit in a 40 foot container ship container.

Also that the factory is the last hands to touch the device until it arrives at the purchaser's door.
(Excluding non-Amazon retail outlets, which might do anything.)

And that before they are sealed in their box, they are put into "shipping mode" - which among other things prevents them from trying to update while in the box.

People are still reporting that the new devices they have purchased have 5.8.7.0.1 or earlier installed on them.
So until all of those that filled the last container (before the factory started installing something newer) are sold off, this thread may have some use.

Amazon does not publish sales figures for the Kindles.
So that is about all the 'facts' we have to go on.

I would think the factory ships (no pun intended) once a financial quarter but you may very well be correct, that there is at least 6 months worth of stock out there waiting for people to purchase them.

Now if we just had a few 'stock watchers' in Singapore (I am guessing Singapore gets first off the line, maybe even before China does) to let us know when 5.8.8 (or newer) starts showing up in the large wholesalers . . ..

For those not following my reasoning:
A major industry in Singapore is the sale (wholesale and retail) of electronic goods.
They have some of the largest malls and sales facilities in the world.
I was just going by the approximate time frames on previous firmwares.
I was also thinking it would make financial sense to manufacture roughly a 6 month stock at a time. I figure Amazon has a reasonable idea of how many of a device they will sell. Plus, they can put more than one type of kindle in that shipping container. I am guessing one plant somewhere makes most ereaders.
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The jailbreak survives if you have to switch the Kindle to "Demo Mode" to downgrade it and then switch it back to "User Mode" to upgrade it.
Been there, done that (and was the second to write it up).

But I don't think anyone has tried that route with 5.8.8 or 5.8.9 (yet).
If someone wants to possible waste a Kindle, tell us what happens (in your own thread).
At least mention the color of the smoke.
I have switched the Kindle to "Demo Mode".How to downgrade it?
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我已将Kindle切换到“演示模式”.如何降级?
Try reading the first post of this thread.

What model Kindle? (first six characters of serial number please)
What firmware version? (include build id please)
What have you done so far? (details please)
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What model Kindle? (first six characters of serial number please)
What firmware version? (include build id please)
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model:90DD
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Copy update_KT2_5.6.0_initial.bin to Kindle: This file was deleted by Kindle ("Demo Mode" or "User Mode")
Copy update_KT2_5.6.0_initial.bin to Kindle, umount, sync, force reboot: UPDATE ERROR: 16 ("Demo Mode" or "User Mode")

复制update_KT2_5.6.0_initial.bin到Kindle:这个文件被Kindle删 除("Demo Mode"或"User Mode")
复制update_KT2_5.6.0_initial.bin到Kindle,umount,sync, 强制重启: UPDATE ERROR: 16("Demo Mode"或"User Mode")
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