Beta testers for calibre 3.0 needed

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by rashkae

... but a server option, (or alternate binary) that does not modify database would be ideal.

+1

Originally Posted by kacir

What can I do in Firefox to help you diagnose this issue?

Have you tried running Firefox in with extensions disabled. Most of my Firefox 'problems' are caused by extensions. I gave up trying to figure which extensions were the culprits, instead I installed two extra extensions - Open in Chrome and Open in Edge

My Chrome and Edge installs have minimal add-ons, whereas Firefox has a lot.

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@Kovid - what controls the columns displayed for a book when I click on it and I get the Read and Download buttons. It doesn't appear to equate with the Look & Feel->Book Details settings, nor with what I see in Book Information - the non-modal dialogue that shows everything, except empty columns.

My usage of the server is to look at an author's list of books and at the book metadata. My ideal would be to see the columns selected within the Look & Feel->Book Details tab, in the order nominated. With display time options for Show All and Show Empty Columns.

BTW I solved my backspace problem, it seems Google removed it around June last year, in August they released the Go Back With Backspace extension

BR

[kovidgoyal]

Originally Posted by rashkae

This is actually pretty big breakage to my exiting use case. I'll work around it simply by creating a server start script that clones a new copy of the library just for the server, but a server option, (or alternate binary) that does not modify database would be ideal.

I'm afraid that is not going to happen. What is your use case? Remember that you can now connect to a running server with calibredb. ABout the only thing you cant do now, that you could before is run calibre-server and the GUI at the same time. Instead you have to run the server embedded in the GUI.

[kovidgoyal]

@kacir Open the dev tools in Firefox and see if any errors are printed to the console.

I'll test out your books in Firefox later today.

[kovidgoyal]

@BR: At the moment, nothing. Sometime in the future I might make that configurable.
It's not clear to me that using the same settings as in the GUI is the right thing to do -- after all the use cases for the two may well be different. On the other hand, it seems silly to have multiple sets of settings for very similar things.


On the third hand, since the server can be run independently of the GUI, having it depend on configuration that can only be altered from the GUI is not a good idea.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I'm afraid that is not going to happen. What is your use case? Remember that you can now connect to a running server with calibredb. ABout the only thing you cant do now, that you could before is run calibre-server and the GUI at the same time. Instead you have to run the server embedded in the GUI.

The server auto starts and runs as a service.. The gui is run when I'm logged in as desktop app.. pretty clear distinction there.

[kovidgoyal]

So just create a script to launch the gui that shuts down the server service, runs the GUI and restarts it the GUI quits. You can even have the GUI auto start its embedded server on launch, so the service will be unavailable for only a few seconds.

[kovidgoyal]

And as the server UI gains the ability to make changes to the library you will find yourself only needing to run the main GUI for more complex tasks -- the server UI will be much simplified compared to the main GUI.

You could instead just open a browser that conencts ot the running service and perform basic tasks like adding/deleting books, editing metadata, converting.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

And as the server UI gains the ability to make changes to the library you will find yourself only needing to run the main GUI for more complex tasks -- the server UI will be much simplified compared to the main GUI.

You could instead just open a browser that conencts ot the running service and perform basic tasks like adding/deleting books, editing metadata, converting.

I assure you, my usage of the Gui is *never* basic. Regardless, I don't mean to be intractable.. Like I said, a server startup script that copies it's own snapshot of the library will work. I was just putting a plug for the ideal.

[kovidgoyal]

The ideal is to have the GUI be able to connect to a server as a backend -- but that is a whole order fo magnitude more work to accomplish

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

@BR: At the moment, nothing. Sometime in the future I might make that configurable.
It's not clear to me that using the same settings as in the GUI is the right thing to do -- after all the use cases for the two may well be different. On the other hand, it seems silly to have multiple sets of settings for very similar things.


On the third hand, since the server can be run independently of the GUI, having it depend on configuration that can only be altered from the GUI is not a good idea.

I had the same thoughts in roughly the same order.

I'd be happy to have a separate settings for GUI and Server

Especially if I can get a Show empty values option - its lack often drives me to

BR

[Divingduck]

Hi Kovid,
I did some more tests and there seems to be two minor issues with cover pictures.
1.
PDF: in the past the behavior was to add/generate the first page of an PDF document as cover. That seems not to happen now
2. Drag&Drop of an image as cover in the metadata editor window. Here I become a error warning that the file (*.jpg) isn't a valid picture. If I load the picture as file it works as expected

calibre 2.99.3 Windows 64bit
Windows 10 64bit (1607)

[Martina Schein]

Since Wednesday I am working with the Caliber Beta (since yesterday 2.99.3) in productive operation. Of course I have made a backup before.

Until now, everything works fine.
I've added books in Caliber, edited with the editor, and copied eBooks to my ›Kobo Aura H2O‹. Everything is OK. I also have no problems with the installed plugins.
A conversion from AZW3 to ePUB has also worked perfectly.
I don't use the server, because I do not need it so far.

My eBook-Reader:
›Kobo Aura H2O‹ with firmware 4.4.9298

My System:
Window 10 64bit, version 1703, build 15063.296
Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3 S1155 Z68 ATX
Intel Core I5 2500K 4 x 3.30 GHz
16GB Corsair XMS DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Quad Kit
Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 ZONE Edition
System drive: ADTA SP550 (SSD)

[kovidgoyal]

@DivingDuck: Getting the first page as cover from PDF files works for me on my windows machine. Can you attach a PDF file for which it fails? The problem with drag and drop in the edit metadata window is fixed by: https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...27094c2f67641c

@Martina: Thanks, good to know.

[Divingduck]

@Kovid
incredible fast. Great.

Here two examples. PW for the zip will follow by PM.

[JimmXinu]

FYI,

I installed 2.99.3 portable on Win10 and did basic testing with the plugins I maintain and most commonly use. I encountered no issues with the new Calibre.

Version details:

Spoiler:

calibre Debug log
calibre 2.99.3 Portable embedded-python: True is64bit: False
Windows-10-10.0.14393-SP0 Windows ('32bit', 'WindowsPE')
32bit process running on 64bit windows
('Windows', '10', '10.0.14393')
Python 2.7.12+
Windows: ('10', '10.0.14393', 'SP0', u'Multiprocessor Free')
Successfully initialized third party plugins: Manage Series (1, 2, 8) && SmartEject (2, 0, 6) && View Manager (1, 3, 2) && Open With (1, 5, 10) && Generate Cover (1, 5, 21) && EpubMerge (2, 1, 0) && Favourites Menu (1, 0, 4) && Unplugged (1, 0, 0) && FanFicFare (2, 10, 0) && EpubSplit (2, 2, 0) && Count Pages (1, 7, 0) && Reading List (1, 6, 6)
Turning on automatic hidpi scaling
devicePixelRatio: 1.0
logicalDpi: 96.0 x 96.0
physicalDpi: 141.76744186 x 141.402061856
Starting up...