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Old 04-25-2017, 09:48 AM   #1756
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Sounds possible.

Though the initial factory downgrade version before jailbreaking was of course the international version linked here - all my subsequent upgrades I got either OTA here in Germany or fetched them from the amazon.de website. This could well be the reason why Active Book files work too.

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Ah, so -
an Amazon.de site rather than Amazon.com
That would make distributing localized firmwares easy to do.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:42 AM   #1757
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Sounds possible.

Though the initial factory downgrade version before jailbreaking was of course the international version linked here - all my subsequent upgrades I got either OTA here in Germany or fetched them from the amazon.de website. This could well be the reason why Active Book files work too.

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I added the a note about the situation to step #7.
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Just checked it for PW3: Amazon.de as well as Amazon.com both have the same link:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/firmwaredow...hite_5.8.9.bin

Could also be a local flag "support active documents" which survives updates if already set in an older firmware. Just like your jailbreak...

OTOH, my friend bought a PW3 a few weeks ago, immediately made the jailbreak and updated directly to 5.8.7 - and active documents are supported in his device. Just asked him explicitely.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:52 PM   #1759
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PW-3 is a 7th. generation device.
Policy change only affects 8th. generation devices.

Compare the build numbers of your PW-3 build and your KT-3 build.
The firmware version will be the same but: (build ID number) will be different.

= = = =

I will leave the note I added this morning because of that "I can't remember" problem with recovering a bricked German PW-?, the firmware update packages where different that time.

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Well, my KT3 still accepts Active Documents - but it was updated version after version from 5.8.3 (or so) to now 5.8.7.0.1. When jailbreking and then updating immediatetly to that version or even 5.8.9 could indeed break this ability.

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Old 04-25-2017, 02:56 PM   #1761
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Well, my KT3 still accepts Active Documents - but it was updated version after version from 5.8.3 (or so) to now 5.8.7.0.1. When jailbreking and then updating immediatetly to that version or even 5.8.9 could indeed break this ability.

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This was clear for me. I've meant a (supposed) internal system area config parameter kept thru consecutive fw updates as long as there is no factory reset.

As for the PW3, I mixed it up with the problem of no longer being able to perform the factory image downgrade. You're right: Active Documents should work with 7th generation Kindles smoothly even with the latest fw. Sorry - was in a hurry...

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Old 04-25-2017, 06:27 PM   #1763
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My head is spinning today anyway.
I may have given you part of the answer to another technical question posed at about the same time.

I.E: I may not have the:
person <-> question <-> answer
parts all matched up properly today.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:52 PM   #1764
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:42 AM   #1765
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Hi MobileRead forum,

I m currently at step 8 of jailbreaking my PW2.
(I hope previous steps went good, I saw the **JAILBROKEN** mark during the universal jailbreak for PW2...)

English not being my native language, I m not sure how to proceed for the step 8.a :
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Any of our after-market add-ins, with an update_*.bin format filename requires the use of the Mobileread Package Installer (MrPI).
Get the MR Package Installer from the KUAL and KUAL extensions section of:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=225030
This is an "un-archive to top level of visible USB storage" package.
Be sure that the un-archive tool you use has options set to create directories.
KOA and KT3 owners:
You must run the installer with your new, search bar command: ;log mrpi
Other models covered in this thread may do the same or may run it from KUAL.


So, do I just need to put the downloaded archive "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N-r13408.tar.xz " in its .tar.xz state to the root of my Kindle ?
Do I need to put it in its .tar state ?
Or do I need to unzip it totally and put the 4 contents in to the root (contents being "mrpackages", "extensions" folders and "VERSION", "ChangeLog.txt" files).

I tried to put the "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N-r13408.tar.xz " like that in my Kindle. Then I tried the ;log mrpi in the search bar but nothing happened.
(Also i couldnt try to run it from KUAL since I haven't installed KUAL yet (it's the 8.b step).

Thanks for your patience and your help
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:58 AM   #1766
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Hi MobileRead forum,

I m currently at step 8 of jailbreaking my PW2.
(I hope previous steps went good, I saw the **JAILBROKEN** mark during the universal jailbreak for PW2...)

English not being my native language, I m not sure how to proceed for the step 8.a :
Spoiler:
Any of our after-market add-ins, with an update_*.bin format filename requires the use of the Mobileread Package Installer (MrPI).
Get the MR Package Installer from the KUAL and KUAL extensions section of:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=225030
This is an "un-archive to top level of visible USB storage" package.
Be sure that the un-archive tool you use has options set to create directories.
KOA and KT3 owners:
You must run the installer with your new, search bar command: ;log mrpi
Other models covered in this thread may do the same or may run it from KUAL.


So, do I just need to put the downloaded archive "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N-r13408.tar.xz " in its .tar.xz state to the root of my Kindle ?
Do I need to put it in its .tar state ?
Or do I need to unzip it totally and put the 4 contents in to the root (contents being "mrpackages", "extensions" folders and "VERSION", "ChangeLog.txt" files).

I tried to put the "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N-r13408.tar.xz " like that in my Kindle. Then I tried the ;log mrpi in the search bar but nothing happened.
(Also i couldnt try to run it from KUAL since I haven't installed KUAL yet (it's the 8.b step).

Thanks for your patience and your help
None of the above.
Open the archive.
Put the document form in /documents.
You want the -2.0- not the -1.0- document.
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:21 AM   #1767
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I can't find any document form with 2.0 or 1.0 in its name in the archive "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N.tar.xz" or the same .zip on its own forum post.

I can find them in the archive "KUAL-v2.7.zip" from the step 8.b
Should I start installing KUAL (step 8.b) before installing MrPI (step 8.a) ?
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I can't find any document form with 2.0 or 1.0 in its name in the archive "kual-mrinstaller-1.6.N.tar.xz" or the same .zip on its own forum post.

I can find them in the archive "KUAL-v2.7.zip" from the step 8.b
Should I start installing KUAL (step 8.b) before installing MrPI (step 8.a) ?
On a PW2 you can do it in either order because it is not a KT3 or KOA.
I just made a mistake in answering the wrong part of your question about step 8.

About MrPI, which you did ask about:
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This is an "un-archive to top level of visible USB storage" package.
Be sure that the un-archive tool you use has options set to create directories.
How else can that be written?
What is your native language?

When you do as directed, the un-archive tool will create two directories at the top level of visible USB storage, /extensions and /mrpackages
That is all you have to do for MrPI

Those, and their contents, are all there is to MrPI.

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Do the latter, i.e. the thing you mentioned last: just put the KUAL-...-2.0.azw2 in your /documents folder. Wait a bit to let your Kindle find this document and add it to its list. Open this "book" - you'll find yourself in the KUAL Menu. Don't bother about MRPI - this is simply not necessary for PW2 and even PW3.

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Do the latter, i.e. the thing you mentioned last: just put the KUAL-...-2.0.azw2 in your /documents folder. Wait a bit to let your Kindle find this document and add it to its list. Open this "book" - you'll find yourself in the KUAL Menu. Don't bother about MRPI - this is simply not necessary for PW2 and even PW3.

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What firmware version of what country?

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Given the restrictions imposed on OTA packages by FW 5.5.x ...
On any device, running the USA build of firmwares 5.5.x or more recent, any device, MrPI is required.

And I don't recall linking to anything older than 5.7.x in step #7.
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