Sony Digital Paper DPT-S1 Owner's Thread

[LarryNYC]

Originally Posted by kaiser s

Looks like Sony is coming out with a newer version of the DPT-S1.

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreak...ablet-notebook

Yes!! Go Sony! Where is the preorder button? Will I be able to buy this in the US?

My biggest fear was that Sony was abandoning this product line and that eventually I'd have to accept a poor substitute for the S1.

Even though I also overpaid for the S1, I don't regret it, I love the device that much. I almost pulled the trigger on another S1 yesterday, glad I saw this announcement.

I'm grateful that they're sticking by their vision of PDF only and that it will be thinner and lighter, with higher resolution. This is good news for all people who love eInk devices.

[rem736]

Originally Posted by LarryNYC

I'm grateful that they're sticking by their vision of PDF only

why? they could easily port over the code they used in their T series readers to add support for epub. how would supporting just the pdf format be better than supporting both pdf and epub?

[rkomar]

Originally Posted by rem736

why? they could easily port over the code they used in their T series readers to add support for epub. how would supporting just the pdf format be better than supporting both pdf and epub?

It's not really a device just for reading, but also for marking up documents. PDF supports that well, whereas EPUB currently doesn't.

[EmilThelonius]

how would supporting just the pdf format be better than supporting both pdf and epub?

Have you ever annotated an epub with a stylus (rather than just highlighting)? I mean: it is simply not possible to scribble notes into epubs or mobi-files. Sony wants to keep it as simple as possible, uniform and consistent, so they only use "paperlike" pdfs. That's the only reason I can think of... and converting all your epubs to pdfs takes probably 10 minutes with calibre: it could be worse.

Edit: rkomar was faster

[LarryNYC]

I guess I agree with everybody else, that this is a professional device that is meant for marking up documents, and not just for reading. That's certainly how I use it. I read novels on my Kindle, and it has a backlight, something I don't think we will be getting in the new model. Is there any mention of a backlight? I have no understanding of Japanese.

I'm just happy we're getting a hardware upgrade. I thought we were at the end of the line.

[rem736]

Originally Posted by EmilThelonius

Have you ever annotated an epub with a stylus (rather than just highlighting)? I mean: it is simply not possible to scribble notes into epubs or mobi-files. Sony wants to keep it as simple as possible, uniform and consistent, so they only use "paperlike" pdfs. That's the only reason I can think of... and converting all your epubs to pdfs takes probably 10 minutes with calibre: it could be worse.

Edit: rkomar was faster

apologies, i never meant to imply that sony should allow annotation/mark up of epubs. just allowing it to be viewed would be sufficient. no change from the epub functionality created in the T series readers.

[robko]

Originally Posted by LarryNYC

Yes!! Go Sony! Where is the preorder button? Will I be able to buy this in the US?

From what I've read so far it's a Japan only device. Not sure if these means no english interface or they will expand the marketing down the road or not.

[xhacker]

Could someone comment on the CPU? How does it compare to the CPU used in a DPT-S1 or onyx boox max or an iPad ? I have no knowledge of these low power chips. If anyone here does, then I would like to hear your thoughts.

[LarryNYC]

Originally Posted by robko

From what I've read so far it's a Japan only device. Not sure if these means no english interface or they will expand the marketing down the road or not.

I hope they don't shut us out for long. After all, if this is a successor to the DPT-S1 then they already have a translated version of the system. That article did mention that people would be able to buy it in a Sony store.

[Psykoking]

Originally Posted by xhacker

Could someone comment on the CPU? How does it compare to the CPU used in a DPT-S1 or onyx boox max or an iPad ? I have no knowledge of these low power chips. If anyone here does, then I would like to hear your thoughts.

I did a little research for you by searching through website and datasheets from nxp, ARM and Marvell and according to what I found ranking would be like this:

1. Marvell IAP 140 (Sony DPT - RP1)
2. i.MX6SoloLite (Onyx Boox Max)
3. i.MX508 (Sony DPT - S1)

This is because i.MX508 and i.MX6Sololite are single core CPUs with a clock rate of 800 MHz to 1 GHz for the i.MX508 and 1GHz for the i.MX6SoloLite.
The Marvell IAP 140 on the other hand is powered by a quad - core ARM Cortex-A53 complex clocked up to 1.2 GHz which is the sucessor to the Cortex-A9 used in the i.MX6SoloLite.
ARM states on their website that the A53 performance is at least equivalent or higher than the A9.

I haven´t found anything about multicore scaling yet but i guess we can at least expect double the performance compared to the i.MX6SL.


Sources:

Spoiler:

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a
https://www.arm.com/products/process...-processor.php
http://www.nxp.com/assets/documents/.../IMX6SLCEC.pdf
http://www.nxp.com/assets/documents/...s/IMX50CEC.pdf
http://www.marvell.com/application-p...f-20160601.pdf

[umeshg]

Sony 13.3" 4GB DPTS1 Digital Paper System now available

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...er_system.html

[LarryNYC]

Originally Posted by umeshg

Sony 13.3" 4GB DPTS1 Digital Paper System now available

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...er_system.html

Gone already? LOL.

[Michel de]

Very cool device as is also the DPT-S1. Was there any mention of microSD card slot in the news? I did not notice.

[LarryNYC]

Originally Posted by Michel de

Very cool device as is also the DPT-S1. Was there any mention of microSD card slot in the news? I did not notice.

I can't believe they would drop the microSD support, that would cripple the device for people with a lot of documents.

Can you see anything here?

http://www.sony.jp/products/catalog/DPT-RP1_1704.pdf

from:

http://www.sony.jp/digital-paper/lp/

I noticed that the stylus now fits into a slotted groove on the side of the RP1. I initially thought that was an SD card slot but it is not.

[eli2k]

There's a slick trailer on the main page of their new reader, too.

http://www.sony.jp/digital-paper/pro...RP1/index.html
http://www.sony.jp/digital-paper/pro...-RP1/spec.html



No SD slot, I think it'll have 16gb built-in instead. But there's Bluetooth in addition to wifi on the specs page. From the video, it shows the reader interfacing with a desktop app, so you can upload and manage PDFs directly. Also looks like an easier to access thumbnails page to quickly find the page you want. And of course, a higher resolution 1650 × 2200 screen. And I also noticed the screen is flush with the bezel? That will make writing near the edge easier.