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Old 03-18-2017, 06:46 PM   #76
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Yeah, but there are probably more ebooks available than waterproof books so my point still stands. It seems there are only a few waterproof books available and they are only the classics (according to your link which may be outdated) and an ebook is probably cheaper than a waterproof book ( the cost of an ereader eventually pays for itself ). ..
Well. in addition to the classics there is a new genre of "aqua erotica."

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Old 03-18-2017, 08:07 PM   #78
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... and paper books are less likely to kill you:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

What an idiot!
Nah, paper books'll get you too.

http://stephencfchan.blogspot.se/200...-by-books.html

The documented dangers of pbooks go back at least as far as Pliny the Younger:

https://www.loebclassics.com/view/pl..._LCL055.81.xml
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True, but paper book are still less likely to get you than an ebook in an electronic device whose battery may spontaneously catch fire and burn down your house at any moment. Pedestrians are also increasingly becoming casualties while walking while texting however it's possible an unfortunate few were engrossed in an ebook before they met their fate.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cent/81483294/

In regard to the dangers of pbooks I did get a nasty paper cut a time or two while reading.



What are you innumerate ? What's the statistics on ebooks spontaneously combusting ? Must be extremely low at best.

Do drive a car ? More Americans have died in car accidents than in the Vietnam war but people still drive. Maybe, you should stop driving and sell your car.

Also, who the hell walks or drives while reading an ebook ? You can walk or drive and read a paper book too. I fail to see your point as walking and texting or driving and texting is alot more common numerically speaking than walkng or driving while reading an ereader and a physical book can cause the same fate.

I bet you alot more people die walking drunk, in Manhatta, by cars or driving drunk than by death by ereader. The numbers, statistically speaking must be extremely low.
My comment was more a tongue-in-cheek response to meera’s response that a paper book is as capable of causing injury as a electronic device in water. I certainly wasn’t trying to provide a statistical analysis of the risk of death via paperbooks vs ebooks. You are also correct that a waterproof ereader device has a greater variety of reading material available than water proof book. The genre of water proof books seems to be limited currently to water proof childrens books, classics, certain books made for underwater reading for scuba divers, and the aqua-erotica genre books I’ve previously mentioned. When it comes to reading books in the water I concede your point #5 that a water proof ereader has the advantage over books.

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Old 03-19-2017, 05:28 AM   #79
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Books also have an advantage over ebooks because you don't run into technological issues. For example, it's happened when I'm reading something on my Sony PRS T-1 and then I get the spinning wheel of death. Then I have to post in the sony forum section and get guidance on how to soft reset, hard reset, delete the book, redownload it, etc. While trying to get a book to synch from Calibre to my ereader I also had to get feedback from the Calibre forum section. I believe the creator of Calibre gave me a detailed step by step process on how to fix it. I'm also having issues with my kindle keyboard
battery discharging rapidly and may have to research how to replace the battery. Anyway, to read a book you won't run into any technical difficulties. The following video illustrates in general terms how technology can be frustrating.
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The following video illustrates in general terms how technology can be frustrating.

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Old 03-19-2017, 12:25 PM   #81
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Technology/technical difficulties can do that to you. I guess it would be possible to scream and yell at a book but it seems less likely. I’ve been influenced by several authors who wrote about the risk of not technology per se, but dependence on the technique of technology. The French Sociologist, Jaques Ellul wrote extensively about this in The Technology Society. In a science fiction format, Frank Herbert wrote about the risk of mankind developing a “machine like attitude”. It’s important to note that these authors would not be considered Luddite’s in any sense of the word (See: Samuel Butler’s Erewhon). That being said another advantage of reading physical paper books rather than an electronic device is less distractions. When I read on a tablet I find it easy to get distracted and surf the internet, check out facebook, twitter, etc. Even with a dedicated ereader with wifi off there is an indirect distraction of wanting to keep up with the latest trends in ereaders. With a physical book there are less distractions.
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Books also have an advantage over ebooks because you don't run into technological issues.
I think that's more of a personal problem than a tech problem.

Also I think it's one of the advantages of ebooks. When you run into a problem with a print book you throw it away or just put up with it. With ebooks and ereaders you just fix it.

Paper books and ebooks are susceptible to a lot of the same problems. Neither handle fire well. Or water, with some exceptions. Dropping is harder on an ereader but it's pretty hard on print books as well. Once, while sitting on the edge of Grand Canyon with my feet hanging over, reading a paper book while on vacation, I felt a bit of crumbling and quickly moved from the edge. The book fell and fell and fell. I can't actually tell how badly it was damaged but I'm sure it was a mess. Or possibly it's still falling.

The thing is if the ereader has problems you can always reset it. How do you reset a paper book?

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Personally, I like the smell of books. Every book has a unique smell. It reminds me of good memories I associate with the book. I love e-readers, but I can't smell books any more.
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Personally, I like the smell of books. Every book has a unique smell. It reminds me of good memories I associate with the book. I love e-readers, but I can't smell books any more.



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Books clearly have the advantage when it comes to smell. . .

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For me, the only advantage of paper books over electronic books is that you can show them off. A library (which has always been a very comforting environment for me) is a bit more difficult with electronic books and a lot more expensive too!

So, that's the only reason I have paper books: to show (I also have a house that's big enough for a library )
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Books clearly have the advantage when it comes to smell. . .
I love the smell of my Kindle.

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...what does it smell like?

Mine has virtually no odor to speak of.
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Ah, now I remember one more advantage of physical books over ebooks. Science proves that people read slower, less accurately and less comprehensively on screens than on paper.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...paper-screens/

http://lifehacker.com/5898644/read-a...mber-something

I really have to agree with both articles. I can recall details from physical books much better than ebooks. When I want to find one particular quote from a book I can remember which part of the book it was in (middle part, bottom-left) then flip through the pages to find it. I can't do the same on ebooks, and my ability to recall details from them is MUCH worse.
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