Kindle 2 Announcement on Amazon Front Page - Page 9

CCDMan · 02-09-2009, 07:12 PM

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Well, I'll give you an objection to replace it: I just got off the phone with Amazon support and the "replaceable battery" is only replaceable by Amazon. You'd have to send it back to get it replaced.

To me this also implies that one could do it oneself if you could get the battery and back removal tools. I suspect that after a few months some of the battery replacement places that do kits for iPods may provide this like they do now, optionally a kit or send it in.

basschick · 02-09-2009, 07:13 PM

just like a cybook

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

I was just going through the kindle 2 user guide posted at amazon, and it says

Does this mean it will show me how far I have to go until the next chapter? no more guessing. I also like that it shows a percentage now.

wallcraft · 02-09-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Studio717

Does anyone know if there's still web access on K2?

It is in the Users Guide, but still described as "experimental".

desertgrandma · 02-09-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CCDMan

To me this also implies that one could do it oneself if you could get the battery and back removal tools. I suspect that after a few months some of the battery replacement places that do kits for iPods may provide this like they do now, optionally a kit or send it in.

But, does that negate your warranty if anything goes wrong with it? Usually when they say it has to be replaced by them, they want control.

I don't care to send my Kindle back to Amazon to replace a battery. This is a huge red flag.

susan_cassidy · 02-09-2009, 07:35 PM

TTS cannot guarantee that the pronunciation of a word is going to be 100% perfect. I can easily imagine it having to guess, based on internal rules. The dictionary shows pronunciation already, so that works for me.

Boston · 02-09-2009, 09:01 PM

Faster processor is always nice and the 16-level grey scale might be good for some of the maps/charts for my non-fiction reads. But those aren't "must haves" for me.

Lack of an SD card doesn't bother me as I don't need one now...at one time I contemplated using it for audiobooks or mp3s, but I have my pmp for those and it has a better battery life for audio.

I think the joystick was a mistake...using one wouldn't bother me as much as it would someone like my non-gadget/tech mother. One of the cool things about the Kindle was that it was non-threatening to those not comfortable with computers.

Text-to-speech probably has its benefits for some...but I fail to see how the mass-market would find it compelling. Personally, I would find a computer voice distracting...would take away from the emotion/color of reading.
If I wanted audio, I'd prefer an audio book and play it on my pmp.

I think the new form factor will convince a lot of those who have been in the sidelines to jump in.

If my Kindle dies, I would be just as happy to replace it with the new Kindle. But I don't find the Kindle 2 compelling enough to upgrade.

Boston · 02-09-2009, 09:32 PM

I just noticed this:

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EVDO modem with fallback to 1xRTT

I don't recall the "fallback" on the Kindle 1...does that perhaps mean the Whispernet coverage is expanded...which would be a compelling reason for some to upgrade/buy. (But if so, wouldn't that have been mentioned? Or it may have been as I am just catching up on todays events)

Donnageddon · 02-09-2009, 09:33 PM

It would be wise for Amazon to be more cautious with their "drop test" footage. Just like K1, they don't show the results of the drop tests after the device is turned back on.

While eink devices are not exactly fresh eggs waiting to be broken, most consumers may not appreciate how fragile the glass substrate of the screen can be.

Donnageddon · 02-09-2009, 09:35 PM

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I don't recall the "fallback" on the Kindle 1

K1 does have the same fallback. I have had to use it in more remote areas.

Boston · 02-09-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnageddon

K1 does have the same fallback. I have had to use it in more remote areas.

ohh..thanks..I never noticed (or had to use it that I am aware of).

I agree on the drop test...I've thought the video should have been removed for awhile.

JSWolf · 02-09-2009, 09:44 PM

With 1.4gigs of free memory for data storage, and if each eBook was exactly 500k in size, you'd ba able to store 2936 eBook on the Kindle 2. Now how does that make the lack of an SD slot a bad thing? Does anyone here really need more than 2500-3000 eBooks at one time? if you think you do, please tell us why you think you do.

JSWolf · 02-09-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gideon

I'm all for a universal golden standard, but quite frankly it's not here yet. And it won't be until the DRM issue is resolved, anyway. Man... I'm so tired of hearing about lack of ePub. That's like everytime a new iPod comes out and people start complaining about its lack of support of Ogg Vorbis.

Ogg Vorbis and FLAC are missing from iPods. But not to worry, Cowon supports Ogg Vorbis and FLAC with better units at a lower price.

Donnageddon · 02-09-2009, 09:58 PM

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Does anyone here really need more than 2500-3000 eBooks at one time?

I can only imagine it being needed for people who want to use it as a music player, or for lots of photos.

I tried using both the Sony 505 and kindle for music files, but found that the extra battery drain (especially with an SD for storage) too much.

I've never used an SD on either device since then. I would never miss not having a slot for it.

Ervserver · 02-09-2009, 10:02 PM

The Mrs has a 2GB SD card full of music, books, recipes, audio books, etc. and who knows what the future brings, if the Kindle one day can reads pdf files those can be quite large. The option off keeping stuff on cards and popping them in and out is kind of nice for some people.
The Kindle had expandability and it was taken away, some dude at Amazon decided 1.4 GB is all we need. For many users I'm sure 1.4 is plenty. If we only had never had the memory slot at all

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

With 1.4gigs of free memory for data storage, and if each eBook was exactly 500k in size, you'd ba able to store 2936 eBook on the Kindle 2. Now how does that make the lack of an SD slot a bad thing? Does anyone here really need more than 2500-3000 eBooks at one time? if you think you do, please tell us why you think you do.

desertgrandma · 02-09-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

With 1.4gigs of free memory for data storage, and if each eBook was exactly 500k in size, you'd ba able to store 2936 eBook on the Kindle 2. Now how does that make the lack of an SD slot a bad thing? Does anyone here really need more than 2500-3000 eBooks at one time? if you think you do, please tell us why you think you do.

I'll say it again, John. The point here is that before, I had a choice. I could load smaller SD cards by genre and use that as my 'folders. The cards would fit nicely in the little pockets of my m-edge case.

Also, If I chose to, I could load 4,000 books on one SD card, or 1000 books on 4 smaller SD cards, if too many books slowed the Kindle down too much.

Why? Because I CHOSE to. I love having all those books there, just like on my wall.

Now, some tech somewhere decided I didn't need that choice.

They also took away my choice of replacing the battery. While its still replaceable, I have to send it in to Amazon, or risk voiding the warranty by doing it myself.

These are two huge steps backwards.

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02-09-2009, 07:35 PM	#125
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	TTS cannot guarantee that the pronunciation of a word is going to be 100% perfect. I can easily imagine it having to guess, based on internal rules. The dictionary shows pronunciation already, so that works for me.

02-09-2009, 09:01 PM	#126
Boston Fanatic Posts: 555 Karma: 40032 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston :) Device: Kindle, Kobo Aura H20, Pixel XL	Faster processor is always nice and the 16-level grey scale might be good for some of the maps/charts for my non-fiction reads. But those aren't "must haves" for me. Lack of an SD card doesn't bother me as I don't need one now...at one time I contemplated using it for audiobooks or mp3s, but I have my pmp for those and it has a better battery life for audio. I think the joystick was a mistake...using one wouldn't bother me as much as it would someone like my non-gadget/tech mother. One of the cool things about the Kindle was that it was non-threatening to those not comfortable with computers. Text-to-speech probably has its benefits for some...but I fail to see how the mass-market would find it compelling. Personally, I would find a computer voice distracting...would take away from the emotion/color of reading. If I wanted audio, I'd prefer an audio book and play it on my pmp. I think the new form factor will convince a lot of those who have been in the sidelines to jump in. If my Kindle dies, I would be just as happy to replace it with the new Kindle. But I don't find the Kindle 2 compelling enough to upgrade.

02-09-2009, 09:33 PM	#128
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	It would be wise for Amazon to be more cautious with their "drop test" footage. Just like K1, they don't show the results of the drop tests after the device is turned back on. While eink devices are not exactly fresh eggs waiting to be broken, most consumers may not appreciate how fragile the glass substrate of the screen can be.

02-09-2009, 09:44 PM	#131
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,502 Karma: 145863170 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	With 1.4gigs of free memory for data storage, and if each eBook was exactly 500k in size, you'd ba able to store 2936 eBook on the Kindle 2. Now how does that make the lack of an SD slot a bad thing? Does anyone here really need more than 2500-3000 eBooks at one time? if you think you do, please tell us why you think you do.