|  02-08-2017, 06:32 AM | #1 | |
| Zealot            Posts: 145 Karma: 4840066 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: N/A | 
				
				I Wish Apple Loved Books
			 
			
			I Wish Apple Loved Books Quote: 
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|  02-08-2017, 07:37 AM | #2 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | 
			
			Losing a few hundred million to a government lawsuit will put a damper on the love.
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|  02-08-2017, 10:56 AM | #3 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | 
			
			Well, when your lord-on-high says "People don't read anymore", you can't expect too much from their bookstore.
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|  02-08-2017, 11:26 AM | #4 | 
| Cloud Reader            Posts: 1,136 Karma: 4273668 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Boox Note Air 4C, Remarkable PP Move, iPad Pro 11 | 
			
			It really is a pity! I enjoy using their software, also a lot for books I bought elsewhere, and I really wish they would add a couple of features to iBooks. The cloud feature is godsend for reading on iPad and reviewing on Mac but the typography concept is limited and does not play well with many epub styles. I wish they would add basic typography settings, a couple of spacing options for lines and margins... That would be a good start!
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|  02-08-2017, 12:23 PM | #5 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,061 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos | 
			
			I could never get my text to speech app to work with anything on ibooks, so never bothered getting anything but free books from it.
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|  02-08-2017, 04:41 PM | #6 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | Quote: 
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|  02-08-2017, 06:04 PM | #7 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | 
			
			I was just being a smartass  I'd love it if Apple would sell DRM free books that could be downloaded in the format of your choosing, similar to the way they sell music. It'll take a big company to push for a change like that and Amazon sure won't do it. | 
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|  02-08-2017, 06:06 PM | #8 | 
| Bookaholic            Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR + | 
			
			Some of their books are DRM-free (I've downloaded the ePub's with iTunes for Windows), but I'm not aware of a way to tell that ahead of time.
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|  02-09-2017, 10:42 AM | #9 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | Quote: 
 To get rid of DRM, the publishers have to buy in. To a certain extent, the Apple iBook was suppose to be competition for Amazon, but Amazon successfully blocked that move via federal lawsuit against Apple and the publishers. Now, we are in a situation where there is sufficient start up cost as to discourage anyone from entering the market in a meaningful way. I'm not sure that simply removing the DRM will move the needle much. | |
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|  02-09-2017, 11:24 AM | #10 | |
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | Quote: 
 It wouldn't need to be Apple. Google could do it instead. It just has to be a company with enough weight to counter Amazon. For serious readers, it would be a blessing. But I'm realistic enough to acknowledge that books just aren't as popular as music and from what I've seen, publishers are even further behind the times than music executives. (*Please don't start the 'watermarking is/is not DRM argument. It's tiresome.) | |
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|  02-09-2017, 12:11 PM | #11 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2 | Quote: 
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|  02-09-2017, 04:41 PM | #12 | 
| Gentleman and scholar            Posts: 11,499 Karma: 111164374 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space City, Texas Device: Clara BW; Nook ST w/Glowlight, Paperwhite 3 | 
			
			I agree with everything you said, but: Wasn't it always intended to be a search engine? Surely if all they wanted was to open an e-book store, scanning every book wouldn't be required. | 
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|  02-09-2017, 04:49 PM | #13 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,882 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			Not to mention that Google has a pretty serious ebook store in addition to the archive project. They never had any intention of selling copies of copyrighted books they were scanning. That would be silly. No lawyer could have spun that into a legal venture. It was always an archival/search project.
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|  02-10-2017, 08:29 AM | #14 | |
| Fanatic            Posts: 509 Karma: 3455210 Join Date: Apr 2007 Device: Rocket, Nook ST, Kobo WiFi, Kindle PW | Quote: 
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|  02-10-2017, 08:45 AM | #15 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 28,882 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD | 
			
			Regardless of what any agreement may have been interpreted as giving them (Google) the right to do, no one with any sense believed that Google was ever intending to sell copyrighted works that they didn't hold the rights to sell. The AG was being paranoid. I suppose it's a good thing that a judge clarified things later, but the AG's lawsuit was always a tempest in a teapot. Google was creating a archive/search project and the AG panicked over perceived infringement. The ultimate takeaway from any lawsuit, in my opinion, was that it was deemed that Google wasn't violating copyright with their scanning project. Anyone who believes Google was ever intending to "stock" an ebook store with what would have amounted to stolen books isn't thinking very clearly.
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