Questions for new Iliad owners! - Page 22

armadillo · 07-19-2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliverbogler

Me too - a few weeks ago Henrycat, who was among the first to get an early test version (same hardware, several software versions ago) tried out a PNAS paper for me, and reported that the readability was good - i.e. the figs looked fine. PDF reader zoom is likely to be important, and I think that is comin soon, if it is not already there. The rotate feature has also been discussed, though not promised, perhaps. That would be great. When I get mine (am in the US, order #500) I will post pictures with scientific papers - if you have a specific one you want to see, post/PM me the PMID.

Thanks oliver, I'd just like to see a standard article or letter from Nature and Science on the iliad. For instance PMID 15665877 Those journals use very small type. I figure it will impossible to view without zoom...

tribble · 07-19-2006, 03:10 AM

Just got this mail from iRex

Quote:

Thank you for your interest in our solutions for electronic reading.
Because of the large number of reactions, it takes some time to answer all information requests.
We do apologies for this late reaction.

In answer to your questions I would like to inform you that unfortunatly the iLiad only support DHCP and it is not possible to set a static IP into the iLiad at this stage. This functionality may be added through future software releases.

We are aware that some SD cards are not well recognized and the next software release version 2.5 will improve this.

ElaHuguet · 07-19-2006, 06:52 AM

Question: How comfortable is the stylus to use? I think it's a bit thin, so I guess it's ok for short periods of time, but if you annotate/use it for a while, does your hand get cramped? My boss has an HP tablet PC, with a really nice Wacom pen, I'm wondering if I should get one like that eventually (if it works on the iLiad, it should, right?), although I know I'll have to take the iLiad stylus out of its case to write anyway.

The GreatGonzo · 07-19-2006, 08:14 AM

With this version of the software, how exactly do I get content saved on the Iliad?

It's my understanding that I cannot save files off a USB stick or a memory card, right? Can I copy from computer to Iliad at this point? And that's only through a network connection?

I don't have a network set up, just one computer with a (haha!) dial-up internet connection. Do I need to install a network card and set up a one-computer network so I can hook up the Iliad to it and transfer content?

(Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere else, but this forum has expanded to a degree where I have a hard time finding specific information, wiki or no wiki... If somebody could just point me in the right direction...) Thanks!

tribble · 07-19-2006, 08:20 AM

You can put content onto the iLiad, by connecting it to the computer via travelhub an USB.
Or you can put your files on USB stick, CF or CD card, plug them into the iLiad and read from there.

ali · 07-19-2006, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElaHuguet

Question: How comfortable is the stylus to use?

I think it's not too comfortable. When you hold the pen perfectly upright, the drawing appears perfectly at the pen's tip. At the angle I'm holding the pen, the writing appears about 2-3mm right of the tip, which makes all letters that are drawn in multiple strokes look funny.

The GreatGonzo · 07-19-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

You can put content onto the iLiad, by connecting it to the computer via travelhub an USB.

Ah, thanks, I kept overlooking that, all I saw was the "USB port cannot be used for USB connection to computer" bit - silly me...

ElaHuguet · 07-19-2006, 08:45 AM

Thanks, Ali.

arivero · 07-19-2006, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ali

I think it's not too comfortable. When you hold the pen perfectly upright, the drawing appears perfectly at the pen's tip. At the angle I'm holding the pen, the writing appears about 2-3mm right of the tip, which makes all letters that are drawn in multiple strokes look funny.

Recalibrate with your usual pen holding position. This is because of the Wacom resonance mechanism.

ali · 07-19-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by arivero

Recalibrate with your usual pen holding position. This is because of the Wacom resonance mechanism.

Um, wow! Yes! Recalibrate!

How do I do that?

arivero · 07-19-2006, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

Just got this mail from iRex

It is sensible. An static IP with an open X11 and trivial root password is a huge security problem. In fact auch dynamical IP in a big organisation is already a worm nest.

arivero · 07-19-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ali

Um, wow! Yes! Recalibrate!
How do I do that?

Er???? Is is factory-calibrated only? Well, now I understand that it is pre-release software.

oliverbogler · 07-27-2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armadillo

Thanks oliver, I'd just like to see a standard article or letter from Nature and Science on the iliad. For instance PMID 15665877 Those journals use very small type. I figure it will impossible to view without zoom...

@ armadillo

My iLiad arrived yesterday, so I uploaded the paper you indicated and took some pics today. In the meantime I have also experimented with several other scientific pdfs. Currently the pdf viewer does not have a zoom function, and so this is limited. One way to maximize the viewing is to crop the pdf as tight as possible. For some reason, some pdfs don't allow that, including the one you picked - possible a DRM issue? So, I would say that this is not easy to read at all, at the moment. When the pdf upgrades to include zoom, I can report back.

The attached image doesn't quite do the text sharpness justice. But you can see the large amount of whitespace around the rim, which I can get rid off with most other pdfs.

Sight Seer · 07-30-2006, 08:50 PM

I have been reading the iLiad postings for months now - I am very interested in this device, but have one specific use in mind. I am a scientist and want to use the iLiad to read scientific pdf files that I download from scientific journals. These pdf files are generaly formatted to print on 8.5 x 11 inch paper. Would these files be readable on this device?

Oliverbogler apparently did try to read a science pdf but indicated that zooming would be necessary and cropping of excess white space. This is a bit more work than desired to make the device really useful.

It is my impression, based on the videos and screen shots that I have seen, that zooming and navigating no a page would be a difficult way to read these files. Based on the photo of the first page of the paper posted by Oliverbogler, could it be that the zoom feature would could be controlled to just remove the white margin? Perhaps a "custom" program to reformat these pdfs could be created?

KILI · 07-31-2006, 10:42 AM

Hi Seer-Sight. I'm afraid that you will be disappointed by the Iliad when I read your demands correctly. Indeed do I think you will need a zoom function as I do. Especially with schematics. I have a number of documents with complex class diagrams etc and they are unreadable with the current functionality. You could try for a custom program of course but in view of the recent efforts of Irex (producer of the Iliad) to tighten security you do not have any guarantees the custom program will keep working. Only thing here left is to wait for Irex to build in the functionality (I think they will find something for it). Maybe the developers’ facilities (SDK) which will be released coming half year will result in something useful.

I have some experience now. Although not having a zoom I like the thing and find it useful. I hope they will really facilitate developers and open up the system. As you can see here on the site there are enough brilliant hackers that can do almost anything. (Maybe they can rebuild the Iliad to do the vacuum cleaning ;-))

07-30-2006, 08:50 PM	#329
Sight Seer Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL	Question about pdf viewing I have been reading the iLiad postings for months now - I am very interested in this device, but have one specific use in mind. I am a scientist and want to use the iLiad to read scientific pdf files that I download from scientific journals. These pdf files are generaly formatted to print on 8.5 x 11 inch paper. Would these files be readable on this device? Oliverbogler apparently did try to read a science pdf but indicated that zooming would be necessary and cropping of excess white space. This is a bit more work than desired to make the device really useful. It is my impression, based on the videos and screen shots that I have seen, that zooming and navigating no a page would be a difficult way to read these files. Based on the photo of the first page of the paper posted by Oliverbogler, could it be that the zoom feature would could be controlled to just remove the white margin? Perhaps a "custom" program to reformat these pdfs could be created? Last edited by Sight Seer; 07-30-2006 at 08:57 PM. Reason: Add additional thoughts

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07-19-2006, 06:52 AM	#318
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	Question: How comfortable is the stylus to use? I think it's a bit thin, so I guess it's ok for short periods of time, but if you annotate/use it for a while, does your hand get cramped? My boss has an HP tablet PC, with a really nice Wacom pen, I'm wondering if I should get one like that eventually (if it works on the iLiad, it should, right?), although I know I'll have to take the iLiad stylus out of its case to write anyway.

07-19-2006, 08:14 AM	#319
The GreatGonzo Old Yeller Posts: 180 Karma: 67 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Iliad & Kindle - The Best of Both Worlds	With this version of the software, how exactly do I get content saved on the Iliad? It's my understanding that I cannot save files off a USB stick or a memory card, right? Can I copy from computer to Iliad at this point? And that's only through a network connection? I don't have a network set up, just one computer with a (haha!) dial-up internet connection. Do I need to install a network card and set up a one-computer network so I can hook up the Iliad to it and transfer content? (Forgive me if this has been answered somewhere else, but this forum has expanded to a degree where I have a hard time finding specific information, wiki or no wiki... If somebody could just point me in the right direction...) Thanks!

07-19-2006, 08:20 AM	#320
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	You can put content onto the iLiad, by connecting it to the computer via travelhub an USB. Or you can put your files on USB stick, CF or CD card, plug them into the iLiad and read from there.

07-19-2006, 08:45 AM	#323
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	Thanks, Ali.

07-31-2006, 10:42 AM	#330
KILI Hmmmmmmm Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Device: Iliad ER-0100	Hi Seer-Sight. I'm afraid that you will be disappointed by the Iliad when I read your demands correctly. Indeed do I think you will need a zoom function as I do. Especially with schematics. I have a number of documents with complex class diagrams etc and they are unreadable with the current functionality. You could try for a custom program of course but in view of the recent efforts of Irex (producer of the Iliad) to tighten security you do not have any guarantees the custom program will keep working. Only thing here left is to wait for Irex to build in the functionality (I think they will find something for it). Maybe the developers’ facilities (SDK) which will be released coming half year will result in something useful. I have some experience now. Although not having a zoom I like the thing and find it useful. I hope they will really facilitate developers and open up the system. As you can see here on the site there are enough brilliant hackers that can do almost anything. (Maybe they can rebuild the Iliad to do the vacuum cleaning ;-))