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Old 01-05-2017, 07:05 PM   #781
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You have to buy one from a private seller not a liquidator.

Since I only need the SN, they don't need to ship the device saving money.
Why do you only need the SN? How do you register a Kindle using just the SN?
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:38 PM   #782
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Why do you only need the SN? How do you register a Kindle using just the SN?
I thought customer service could register it for you. What do those do that don't have wifi?
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:49 PM   #783
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If you don't have net access, then a Kindle is going to be useless. You won't be able to buy and download eBooks.
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On my iMac, I don't see a place for a checkmark either. Or is this on my physical Kindle?

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I meant check that the checkmark isn't there. I might have phrased it a bit weird, but its obviously what I meant reading the rest of my post.
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Old 01-05-2017, 08:57 PM   #785
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If you don't have net access, then a Kindle is going to be useless. You won't be able to buy and download eBooks.
Actually you can buy and download books without WiFi. On the Manage Your Kindle page you can download and transfer via USB to your Kindle. You can buy books from the site of course. You do have to have a eInk Kindle to be able to download.

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Old 01-05-2017, 09:00 PM   #786
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Actually you can buy and download books without WiFi. On the Manage Your Kindle page you can download and transfer via USB to your Kindle. You can buy books from the site of course. You do have to have a eInk Kindle to be able to download.

Sent from my Nexus 7
But who these days has internet access without WiFi?
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:54 PM   #787
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On my iMac, I don't see a place for a checkmark either. Or is this on my physical Kindle?
It's under Properties.

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Old 01-05-2017, 10:52 PM   #788
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I just tried using Manage Your Kindle to download a book destined for my Paperwhite 1st generation, which doesn't support the new enhanced fonts, etc. It worked just fine but when I put it in Calibre, all set up with Apprentice Alf, it said the book had DRM and it couldn't read or convert it.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I do still have K4PC v1.17.1 so it's not an immediate problem but I do want to be prepared. I do have automatic updates unchecked.

Calibre normally does my conversions just fine so it's not Calibre.

I'm guessing that the DRM is keyed on this book to the device and not to K4PC, and that K4PC normally does the actual decryption. But it can't decrypt this book keyed to the device. I'm doing a lot of guessing here but it seems sensible.

If that's true then downloading for USB transfer isn't going to work so what is going on here? I have to assume you guys have actually tried this and aren't just theorizing. I've been around too long to think that. What am I missing?

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Old 01-05-2017, 10:58 PM   #789
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We can't discuss the process here. You will need to go to the place you get the tools for answers.

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Old 01-06-2017, 01:36 AM   #790
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I have added a note about the update to the FAQs at my github repository, along with download links for Kindle for PC/Mac version 1.17. (Amazon currently works with versions back to 1.15.)

Now that KFX is being used on Kindle for Mac/PC, it should be possible for clever developers to more easily reverse engineer the format and the encryption. If someone comes up with such a solution I'll include it in the tools.
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Old 01-06-2017, 07:23 AM   #791
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Lots of people.
Starting with the ones without internet in the house.
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I just tried using Manage Your Kindle to download a book destined for my Paperwhite 1st generation, which doesn't support the new enhanced fonts, etc. It worked just fine but when I put it in Calibre, all set up with Apprentice Alf, it said the book had DRM and it couldn't read or convert it.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I do still have K4PC v1.17.1 so it's not an immediate problem but I do want to be prepared. I do have automatic updates unchecked.

Calibre normally does my conversions just fine so it's not Calibre.

I'm guessing that the DRM is keyed on this book to the device and not to K4PC, and that K4PC normally does the actual decryption. But it can't decrypt this book keyed to the device. I'm doing a lot of guessing here but it seems sensible.

If that's true then downloading for USB transfer isn't going to work so what is going on here? I have to assume you guys have actually tried this and aren't just theorizing. I've been around too long to think that. What am I missing?

Barry
I've been using my Kindle Keyboard as an archive device all along and don't have KPC installed at all.
I backup to Calibre and get it to disinfect on import. There is an extra setup step that you are missing regarding the device key. Enough said for this forum. You know where to go for the rest of the info (for the lurkers, that's Apprentice Alf's blog)

My question, which is the earliest generation of Kindle that supports kfx?
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:32 AM   #793
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My question, which is the earliest generation of Kindle that supports kfx?
The Paperwhite 2 (6th generation kindle) running firmware 5.6.5 or later is the oldest device that supports KFX. The Paperwhite 1 (5th generation kindle) and older devices do not.

ETA: The 6th and 7th generation devices were introduced without KFX support and it was added in later firmware updates. The 8th generation devices all ship with KFX support.
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So my old Kindle Keyboard will be able to download (or I can download for it) my purchases in the KF8 format until such time as KFX is reversed? Great! Shouldn't be too long (relatively), now that kfx is hitting the desktop.
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People who live alone that have had cable for a while and have no reason to update, a few coworkers and my sister among them.
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