Reading progress

Oldgeeza · 11-04-2016, 12:18 PM

I have a Kindle Oasis and the reading progress is set on page number out of the blue it will change to time left in chapter of it's own accord. Can go for weeks between it happening and never the same point in the chapter.

Cinisajoy · 11-04-2016, 12:23 PM

Are you sure you aren't accidentally bumping it?
That is easy to do.

Bob B · 11-04-2016, 02:40 PM

I have had the same thing happen on a Paperwhite. Not often, but it happens.

My finger isn't really on that area of the screen so doubtful I am accidentally hitting it. With how I hold my Kindle, only my thumbs touch the screen and are located at mid height for turning pages.

barryem · 11-04-2016, 05:04 PM

I have 3 Paperwhites and a Voyage and they all do that now and then. Not often, but it happens. I've never been sure if I did it accidentally or if it's just messing with me.

Barry

badgoodDeb · 11-04-2016, 05:57 PM

Since you don't select what you want to have displayed there, but instead merely click to cycle through the choices ... it is quite easy to bump the field.

Sirtel · 11-04-2016, 07:18 PM

I've had it happen while holding my kindle in my left hand. I've never had it happen while holding it in my right hand. So it must be an accidental touch, even though I was not aware of touching the screen at all.

disconnected · 11-13-2016, 10:26 AM

I think my Oasis is possessed.

From the beginning I’ve had the problems of it changing the reading progress setting randomly while I’m reading and displaying error messages about the cover being incorrectly attached, unauthorized, or missing. Both of those could possibly be user error so I just reset the reading progress and reseat the cover as needed and carry on.

Lately though, it’s been turning pages and/or rapidly and repeatedly refreshing the screen by itself. It seems to only happen when I’ve been reading for quite a while so I’ve wondered if it might be heat related somehow. When it starts acting up I can set it down and it will sometimes continue flashing for a while even if I don’t touch it. I can also sometimes cause it to do the same thing if I press on part of the bezel (being careful to not touch the screen); looking at it with the wide bezel on the right it’s the lower third of the wide side of the bezel that has the problem. It doesn’t happen often, so far at least, so I’ll just keep it for now. It has the best screen of any ereader I’ve had so I’d rather not take a chance on a replacement unless it gets really bad.

ETA: I also get occasional screen freezes requiring a restart. I've almost never had that happen with any of my other ereaders.

badgoodDeb · 11-14-2016, 05:56 PM

I'd probably take that whole description to Amazon Customer Support. That doesn't sound good.

NullNix · 11-16-2016, 07:38 PM

Agreed. The only one of those possessed symptoms which is routine is the messing-up of reading progress: usually it either repeatedly halves itself into uselessness or suddenly snaps down to "oh yes of course you can read these 400 pages in three minutes". I find myself having to do a ;ReadingTimeReset every hundred pages or so.

The rest of those symptoms sound like actual device faults rather than just a known crappiness in the software.

HarryT · 11-17-2016, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NullNix

Agreed. The only one of those possessed symptoms which is routine is the messing-up of reading progress: usually it either repeatedly halves itself into uselessness or suddenly snaps down to "oh yes of course you can read these 400 pages in three minutes". I find myself having to do a ;ReadingTimeReset every hundred pages or so.

That's odd. Reading time works absolutely fine for me. I can't recall it ever giving a figure I wouldn't regard as reasonable.

NullNix · 11-17-2016, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That's odd. Reading time works absolutely fine for me. I can't recall it ever giving a figure I wouldn't regard as reasonable.

What's oddest is that it happens completely without warning. I could understand it, a bit, if it went mad only after I'd paged frantically back in the book or something, but I can be sitting there reading a page and *not even changing pages*, 200 pages into a 500-page book, and suddenly flick! 3m to finish this book. I don't think so.

;ReadingTimeReset is more or less permanently in my search history as a result. If they can't fix this bug (and apparently they can't, since it's been there for as long as the reading-time feature has existed), they should at least make ;ReadingTimeReset into a menu option or something.

jhowell · 11-17-2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That's odd. Reading time works absolutely fine for me. I can't recall it ever giving a figure I wouldn't regard as reasonable.

It is this way for me also. I wonder if the problem NullNix is having is related to the books themselves.

The books on my kindle are almost all Amazon purchases and library loans fulfilled by Amazon. I occasionally have a personal document, created using kindlegen and delivered via Amazon's cloud. I wonder whether books created or sideloaded in other ways might be more prone to problems of this sort.

Another possibility is something messing with the clock on the kindle.

HarryT · 11-17-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

It is this way for me also. I wonder if the problem NullNix is having is related to the books themselves.

The books on my kindle are almost all Amazon purchases and library loans fulfilled by Amazon. I occasionally have a personal document, created using kindlegen and delivered via Amazon's cloud. I wonder whether books created or sideloaded in other ways might be more prone to problems of this sort.

Every one of the books on my Kindles is sideloaded, so I don't think that can be the problem.

NullNix · 11-17-2016, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

It is this way for me also. I wonder if the problem NullNix is having is related to the books themselves.

The books on my kindle are almost all Amazon purchases and library loans fulfilled by Amazon. I occasionally have a personal document, created using kindlegen and delivered via Amazon's cloud. I wonder whether books created or sideloaded in other ways might be more prone to problems of this sort.

Another possibility is something messing with the clock on the kindle.

I've seen it with a wide variety of Amazon-purchased KFX, KF8, locally-generated kindlegenned joint mobis and calibre-created books, so I don't think the books can be at fault.

(And if the clock is being messed with while I'm offline and not connected to anything resembling NTP, I don't see how. The visible time in the status line at the top does not change.)

It reeks of a simple bug to me, but if not everyone is seeing it I do have an explanation for why Amazon hasn't crushed it yet. Perhaps it's related to subtleties of my page-turning reading habits or something...

shamanNS · 11-18-2016, 07:42 AM

I had exactly the same experience with both PW1 and PW3. Having to do / type reset thing (IIRC none of those "switches" beginning with ; go into search history?) multiple times per book was annoying so I'm not using. Reading Time feature anymore. Number of pages (Calibre generated, number of characters based) is much more reliable.

11-04-2016, 12:18 PM	#1
Oldgeeza Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2016 Device: kindle PaperWhite, Ipad, Iphone	Reading progress I have a Kindle Oasis and the reading progress is set on page number out of the blue it will change to time left in chapter of it's own accord. Can go for weeks between it happening and never the same point in the chapter.

11-13-2016, 10:26 AM	#7
disconnected Fanatic Posts: 527 Karma: 4504715 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: US Device: Kobo Forma, Libra, H2O2e2, Clara, Auras, Kindles, Nooks, Sony, iPAQ	I think my Oasis is possessed. From the beginning I’ve had the problems of it changing the reading progress setting randomly while I’m reading and displaying error messages about the cover being incorrectly attached, unauthorized, or missing. Both of those could possibly be user error so I just reset the reading progress and reseat the cover as needed and carry on. Lately though, it’s been turning pages and/or rapidly and repeatedly refreshing the screen by itself. It seems to only happen when I’ve been reading for quite a while so I’ve wondered if it might be heat related somehow. When it starts acting up I can set it down and it will sometimes continue flashing for a while even if I don’t touch it. I can also sometimes cause it to do the same thing if I press on part of the bezel (being careful to not touch the screen); looking at it with the wide bezel on the right it’s the lower third of the wide side of the bezel that has the problem. It doesn’t happen often, so far at least, so I’ll just keep it for now. It has the best screen of any ereader I’ve had so I’d rather not take a chance on a replacement unless it gets really bad. ETA: I also get occasional screen freezes requiring a restart. I've almost never had that happen with any of my other ereaders. Last edited by disconnected; 11-13-2016 at 10:31 AM. Reason: Add last paragraph

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11-04-2016, 12:23 PM	#2
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Are you sure you aren't accidentally bumping it? That is easy to do.

11-04-2016, 02:40 PM	#3
Bob B Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 1013620 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	I have had the same thing happen on a Paperwhite. Not often, but it happens. My finger isn't really on that area of the screen so doubtful I am accidentally hitting it. With how I hold my Kindle, only my thumbs touch the screen and are located at mid height for turning pages.

11-04-2016, 05:04 PM	#4
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I have 3 Paperwhites and a Voyage and they all do that now and then. Not often, but it happens. I've never been sure if I did it accidentally or if it's just messing with me. Barry

11-04-2016, 05:57 PM	#5
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,574 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Since you don't select what you want to have displayed there, but instead merely click to cycle through the choices ... it is quite easy to bump the field.

11-04-2016, 07:18 PM	#6
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,983 Karma: 243829945 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I've had it happen while holding my kindle in my left hand. I've never had it happen while holding it in my right hand. So it must be an accidental touch, even though I was not aware of touching the screen at all.

11-14-2016, 05:56 PM	#8
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,574 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	I'd probably take that whole description to Amazon Customer Support. That doesn't sound good.

11-16-2016, 07:38 PM	#9
NullNix Guru Posts: 930 Karma: 15576314 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Oasis 1	Agreed. The only one of those possessed symptoms which is routine is the messing-up of reading progress: usually it either repeatedly halves itself into uselessness or suddenly snaps down to "oh yes of course you can read these 400 pages in three minutes". I find myself having to do a ;ReadingTimeReset every hundred pages or so. The rest of those symptoms sound like actual device faults rather than just a known crappiness in the software.

11-18-2016, 07:42 AM	#15
shamanNS Wizard Posts: 1,138 Karma: 12345678 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Serbia Device: Kindle PW5, Kobo Libra 2, Kindle PW1	I had exactly the same experience with both PW1 and PW3. Having to do / type reset thing (IIRC none of those "switches" beginning with ; go into search history?) multiple times per book was annoying so I'm not using. Reading Time feature anymore. Number of pages (Calibre generated, number of characters based) is much more reliable.