Cloud Collection Management is launched

jhowell · 10-06-2016, 07:58 AM

I noticed this popup message on Amazon today:

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Cloud Collection Management is launched. Cloud Collections can be created, edited, and shared from the Manage Your Content and Devices page.

I tried it out. Collections now appears as a choice on the Manage Your Content and Devices page. For collections you can create, delete, rename and list the content. For books you can add to or remove from collections.

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I manage my e-books in calibre, but I read using a variety of Kindle apps and devices, keeping them in sync using Amazon's cloud. It may be possible to reverse engineer the web page and add management of cloud collections in calibre via a plugin. That would be useful to me.

Josieb1 · 10-06-2016, 08:50 AM

I can't see anything on the UK site (not a surprise really) so can you tell me where you see the Collections please. Just on the off chance I've missed it.

jhowell · 10-06-2016, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I can't see anything on the UK site (not a surprise really) so can you tell me where you see the Collections please. Just on the off chance I've missed it.

It is a new choice near the bottom of the "Show" dropdown.

knc1 · 10-06-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I noticed this popup message on Amazon today:

I tried it out. Collections now appears as a choice on the Manage Your Content and Devices page. For collections you can create, delete, rename and list the content. For books you can add to or remove from collections.

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I manage my e-book collection in calibre, but I read using a variety of Kindle apps and devices, keeping them in sync using Amazon's cloud. It may be possible to reverse engineer the web page and add management of cloud collections in calibre via a plugin. That would be useful to me.

Ah, so - -
Very likely related to the disappearing and/or failing jb bridge code.
Since that requires changes in /var/local (persistent user data).

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The author / maintainer of the Calibre collection plug-in is gone.
He was also the one and only forum moderator we had.

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LibrarianSync could probably be modified to support cloud collections once the changes to the database files on the Kindle are determined (it currently has cloud collection handling disabled).

No need to reverse engineer anything.
The things in /var/local belong to the Kindle owner and it is a violation of US law for anyone but the owner to mess with them.
(Keep in mind, Amazon thinks they still own the Kindle in your hands.)

HarryT · 10-06-2016, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

It is a new choice near the bottom of the "Show" dropdown.

Not currently there on Amazon UK. I'm sure it'll appear in due course.

Dazrin · 10-06-2016, 08:37 PM

Since I commented at The Digital Reader, I thought I would also put this here:

In addition to the new “Collections” view, in the default “Books” view I now have a column for “Collections” at the right side. It shows how many collections each book is in and has a drop down that lets you assign the book to a collection or collections or shows you what collections it is in, if applicable.

After a book has been assigned, clicking on the drop down shows the collection but doesn't allow you to assign additional ones. Clicking on the collection name takes you to that collection.

93terp · 10-06-2016, 09:16 PM

Not able to see any of this using Safari on my iPad ��

Tarana · 10-06-2016, 10:35 PM

This must be something that is being rolled out as I don't have that feature yet.

tomsem · 10-06-2016, 10:52 PM

Yes, last time they did major redesign it only worked for some people and some browsers at first and then rolled out to others over a period of days or weeks.

John Hopper · 10-07-2016, 06:23 AM

This sounds like a great development, once it reaches Amazon UK

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HarryT · 10-07-2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John Hopper

This sounds like a great development, once it reaches Amazon UK

For people who use collections, sure. I don't use them

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Dazrin · 10-07-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

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Originally Posted by John Hopper

This sounds like a great development, once it reaches Amazon UK

For people who use collections, sure. I don't use them

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I used them a LOT on my old K3, I haven't used them at all on my Voyage other than experimentation when I first got it and again now. There was an update between the two that changed the way that the different views behave and the new version doesn't work for me.

On the K3, the comparable view showed both the collections you had and books that aren't in a collection. Basically it acted like a folder view in Windows.

On the Voyage the "Collections" view only shows what collections you have. It doesn't show books that are not in a collection. This makes it much less useful to me. I end up just using the "All Items" view and deleting things as I go. I used to just remove them from my TBR collection and leave them on the Kindle. This makes it harder to go back and find a book I have already read but it makes it easier to navigate and find what I want that is actually on my Kindle.

badgoodDeb · 10-07-2016, 01:28 PM

I like this concept, as it is tedious to manage collections one at a time *ON* the Kindle. And yes, I use them. Along with Tarana, I don't see this yet, on either Chrome or Firefox. But thank you all for the pictures of WHERE to look for it. I'll keep looking!

jhowell · 10-07-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazrin

On the Voyage the "Collections" view only shows what collections you have. It doesn't show books that are not in a collection.

I believe that this is caused by the options you have selected in the two drop down menus at the top right corner of the library view. If you choose "Collections" on the left of the two then you will see only collections. If instead you choose "All items" on the left and "Collection" on the right you will see collections followed by all books that are not in any collection.

Dazrin · 10-07-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I believe that this is caused by the options you have selected in the two drop down menus at the top right corner of the library view. If you choose "Collections" on the left of the two then you will see only collections. If instead you choose "All items" on the left and "Collection" on the right you will see collections followed by all books that are not in any collection.

Thanks for the suggestion, this is closer, but not quite right. On my K3, if you had opened a book more recently than a collection it would still be at the top. This view is alphabetical collections then books. So I need to scroll thru 3 pages of collections to get to the first book that is not in a collection. (Of course, it has been 9+ months since my K3 died and maybe I am remembering some of the details wrong. I know the K3 had collections sorted by how recently they were used so the more used ones stayed at the top and still had books showing though.)

It isn't a big deal since I have changed my behavior to accommodate but I would like that old view back.

10-06-2016, 08:37 PM	#6
Dazrin Wizard Posts: 2,720 Karma: 75825105 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: PDXish Device: Kindle Voyage, various Android devices	Since I commented at The Digital Reader, I thought I would also put this here: In addition to the new “Collections” view, in the default “Books” view I now have a column for “Collections” at the right side. It shows how many collections each book is in and has a drop down that lets you assign the book to a collection or collections or shows you what collections it is in, if applicable. After a book has been assigned, clicking on the drop down shows the collection but doesn't allow you to assign additional ones. Clicking on the collection name takes you to that collection. Attached Thumbnails

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Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,082 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra Colour, Libra 2	I can't see anything on the UK site (not a surprise really) so can you tell me where you see the Collections please. Just on the off chance I've missed it.

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93terp Fear The Turtle! Posts: 868 Karma: 4067244 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Margaritaville Device: KV, Kobo Forma, Kobo A1LE, KO3, K3	Not able to see any of this using Safari on my iPad ��

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Tarana Wizard Posts: 4,030 Karma: 38840460 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Minneapolis Device: PWSE, Voyage, K3, HDX, KBasic 7 & 8, Nook Glo3, Echos, Nanos	This must be something that is being rolled out as I don't have that feature yet.

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tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,900 Karma: 27013865 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Yes, last time they did major redesign it only worked for some people and some browsers at first and then rolled out to others over a period of days or weeks.

10-07-2016, 06:23 AM	#10
John Hopper Addict Posts: 361 Karma: 1179724 Join Date: Nov 2015 Device: Kindle Voyage	This sounds like a great development, once it reaches Amazon UK Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

10-07-2016, 01:28 PM	#13
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,539 Karma: 64201357 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	I like this concept, as it is tedious to manage collections one at a time ON the Kindle. And yes, I use them. Along with Tarana, I don't see this yet, on either Chrome or Firefox. But thank you all for the pictures of WHERE to look for it. I'll keep looking!