Calibre 3.0 changes and bèta release date?

Katsunami · 09-29-2016, 07:50 AM

Hi

I've seen Calibre 3.0 mentioned multiple times now. Is there a summary in which is stated what the changes are going to be? Are current plugins going to work, or do they need changes as well?

Also, is there a (tentative) release date for a bèta version? I'm willing to run version 3.0, with its own library, for testing purposes. If I do something in 2.0, I can then do it in 3.0 as well (and also use any new functions) and report bugs.

I can't help with programming as my Python knowledge is 0, and I don't have enough free time beside work+study to get into this, but I can at least help by testing, if wanted.

kovidgoyal · 09-29-2016, 09:40 AM

I will announce the beta here when it is ready. Still a lot of work to finish for that though. There should be no effect on the vast majority of plugins.

However, you can test the main feature of 3.0 -- the new content server using a normal calibre install, by running

calibre-debug.exe --new-server -- /path/to/some/calibre/library/folder

And then go to http://localhost:8080 in some *modern* browser. The new server already has more functionality than the old one, but the major new component, the in browser viewer is under heavy development right now.

theducks · 09-29-2016, 07:02 PM

Interesting. Not sure if I am a fan of the 'distressed' covers (bashed corners

) look. The Grid is nice

It does seen slower. (W10 core2)

Also, some fields appear to be missing is 'searches' (custom dates: #finished AKA Read) is this respecting any existing tweaks?

BetterRed · 09-29-2016, 08:03 PM

Will the existing viewer (ebook-viewer.exe) continue to be distributed in the calibre package?

BR

kovidgoyal · 09-29-2016, 11:05 PM

@theducks: fields missing from where? The Book details page?

@BR: Yes. Though eventually, it will probably be re-written from scratch to use the same codebase as the in browser viewer.

Katsunami · 09-30-2016, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I will announce the beta here when it is ready. Still a lot of work to finish for that though. There should be no effect on the vast majority of plugins.

I'll wait for the announcement then

Quote:

However, you can test the main feature of 3.0 -- the new content server using a normal calibre install, by running

calibre-debug.exe --new-server -- /path/to/some/calibre/library/folder

And then go to http://localhost:8080 in some *modern* browser. The new server already has more functionality than the old one, but the major new component, the in browser viewer is under heavy development right now.

Ack... it's the one feature in calibre I don't use

Still, I'll make a new library and take a look at the content server. If I encounter any unexpected behavior, I'll report it )

theducks · 09-30-2016, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

@theducks: fields missing from where? The Book details page?

@BR: Yes. Though eventually, it will probably be re-written from scratch to use the same codebase as the in browser viewer.

The Search Page

I see many fields with pulldowns,. Including custom , but no dates

I wanted to do a False type on a date (AKA not read)
#finished:false

'Dates' would not be a pulldown. dates could be: single, range, count_range , true-false

I think I need to wait for the Manual as I just figured

out how to drive some of the new search

kovidgoyal · 09-30-2016, 02:26 PM

Searching works exactly like in the main calibre program. Think of the items below the search bar as items from the Tag Browser in the main program. You can click them to create a search just as you would in calibre, or you can directly type in the search query. Just as in calibre, date like fields are not included in the tag browser entries, you have to type them in manually.

theducks · 09-30-2016, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Searching works exactly like in the main calibre program. Think of the items below the search bar as items from the Tag Browser in the main program. You can click them to create a search just as you would in calibre, or you can directly type in the search query. Just as in calibre, date like fields are not included in the tag browser entries, you have to type them in manually.

I tried typing just like I would in the GUI (you tend to be consistent

)
#finished:false works as expected in the GUI

I just updated to 2.69
It now works

BetterRed · 09-30-2016, 08:07 PM

@Kovid - are you interested in feed back before the beta ?

BR

kovidgoyal · 09-30-2016, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@Kovid - are you interested in feed back before the beta ?

BR

Yes, and no

It is easier to change things/add functionality before everything is done, on the other hand, I want to focus on getting to a minimum releasable state as quickly as possible.

theducks · 09-30-2016, 09:27 PM

BTW the new server (W10 x64) worked fine with Calibre Companion to pull a few titles

BetterRed · 09-30-2016, 11:20 PM

With the current server I can 'jump' to a list of books for an author, or a book via commands such as

Code:

"C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/matches/authors/187
"C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/book/125

Where 187 is a author table id and 125 is a book id. Will this be available with the new server?

BR

kovidgoyal · 10-01-2016, 02:45 AM

Yes, just look at the urls generated when you go to those places in the server, the pattern will become obvious. You can in fact link to individual locations inside books, not just to the metadata page for the book.

But, let me interject a note of caution. The URL scheme may change anytime upto the release, since the server is still in development.

BetterRed · 10-01-2016, 06:38 AM

@Kovid - I actually meant will the current url scheme will be available (perhaps as an alternative), I have lots of them embedded in EN and ON Notes. The current the equivalents are

ipaddress:port/?search=authors:%22%3DBetter%20Red%22 and
ipaddress:port/book-id=307&panel=book-details

The second one is OK as it's based on the book's unique key, so I can easily adjust what I have. But the one for authors uses the Author Name which is not a unique key, and...

I think I'd better wait until the beta is released before I make further comments

BR

09-29-2016, 07:50 AM	#1
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Calibre 3.0 changes and bèta release date? Hi I've seen Calibre 3.0 mentioned multiple times now. Is there a summary in which is stated what the changes are going to be? Are current plugins going to work, or do they need changes as well? Also, is there a (tentative) release date for a bèta version? I'm willing to run version 3.0, with its own library, for testing purposes. If I do something in 2.0, I can then do it in 3.0 as well (and also use any new functions) and report bugs. I can't help with programming as my Python knowledge is 0, and I don't have enough free time beside work+study to get into this, but I can at least help by testing, if wanted.

09-30-2016, 11:20 PM	#13
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,018 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	With the current server I can 'jump' to a list of books for an author, or a book via commands such as Code: "C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/matches/authors/187 "C:\Portables\QupZilla Browser\qupzilla.exe" http://localhost:8080/browse/book/125 Where 187 is a author table id and 125 is a book id. Will this be available with the new server? BR Last edited by BetterRed; 09-30-2016 at 11:38 PM. Reason: typo

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09-29-2016, 09:40 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I will announce the beta here when it is ready. Still a lot of work to finish for that though. There should be no effect on the vast majority of plugins. However, you can test the main feature of 3.0 -- the new content server using a normal calibre install, by running calibre-debug.exe --new-server -- /path/to/some/calibre/library/folder And then go to http://localhost:8080 in some modern browser. The new server already has more functionality than the old one, but the major new component, the in browser viewer is under heavy development right now.

09-29-2016, 07:02 PM	#3
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,267 Karma: 61916422 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Interesting. Not sure if I am a fan of the 'distressed' covers (bashed corners ) look. The Grid is nice It does seen slower. (W10 core2) Also, some fields appear to be missing is 'searches' (custom dates: #finished AKA Read) is this respecting any existing tweaks?

09-29-2016, 08:03 PM	#4
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,018 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Will the existing viewer (ebook-viewer.exe) continue to be distributed in the calibre package? BR

09-29-2016, 11:05 PM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	@theducks: fields missing from where? The Book details page? @BR: Yes. Though eventually, it will probably be re-written from scratch to use the same codebase as the in browser viewer.

09-30-2016, 02:26 PM	#8
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Searching works exactly like in the main calibre program. Think of the items below the search bar as items from the Tag Browser in the main program. You can click them to create a search just as you would in calibre, or you can directly type in the search query. Just as in calibre, date like fields are not included in the tag browser entries, you have to type them in manually.

09-30-2016, 08:07 PM	#10
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,018 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Kovid - are you interested in feed back before the beta ? BR

09-30-2016, 09:27 PM	#12
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,267 Karma: 61916422 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	BTW the new server (W10 x64) worked fine with Calibre Companion to pull a few titles

10-01-2016, 02:45 AM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,609 Karma: 28549044 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Yes, just look at the urls generated when you go to those places in the server, the pattern will become obvious. You can in fact link to individual locations inside books, not just to the metadata page for the book. But, let me interject a note of caution. The URL scheme may change anytime upto the release, since the server is still in development.

10-01-2016, 06:38 AM	#15
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,018 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Kovid - I actually meant will the current url scheme will be available (perhaps as an alternative), I have lots of them embedded in EN and ON Notes. The current the equivalents are ipaddress:port/?search=authors:%22%3DBetter%20Red%22 and ipaddress:port/book-id=307&panel=book-details The second one is OK as it's based on the book's unique key, so I can easily adjust what I have. But the one for authors uses the Author Name which is not a unique key, and... I think I'd better wait until the beta is released before I make further comments BR