MobileRead September 2016 Book Club Vote - Page 2

CRussel · 08-29-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dazrin

Interesting vote this time. I am a little surprised to see Heart of Darkness in the lead, I haven't read it but isn't it one that many people are forced to read in school? That tends to leave a bad taste behind.

Three tied for second right now - Hiroshima (non-fiction account of the aftermath of using the bomb), 2001: A Space Odyssey (science fiction with a movie that is more well known than the book), and Captains Courageous (coming of age on the high seas) - all of which are very different from each other.

I suspect Hiroshima doesn't have more votes because of US availability, it doesn't appear to be available from the Amazon US Kindle store at least.

Yes, that might be an issue in some minds, but there IS a free version from Kobo that is available in the US. And conversion is a non-issue. Though I admit, even though it's now on my Kindle, I'm going with the Ed Asner reading.

Hamlet53 · 08-29-2016, 01:26 PM

About availability in the US. Perhaps CRussel can confirm, but this looks to be it?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1946/08/31/hiroshima

It's right out there on the Internet so I would assume that copying or downloading this would not be a copyright violation?

CRussel · 08-29-2016, 02:02 PM

Yes, that's it. And you can certainly read it directly on that site. However, Condé Nast retains copyright:

Spoiler:

Given their willingness at the time of the initial publication to allow others to reprint the article, I suspect one could get permission. But just because it's freely available doesn't mean you can reproduce it without that permission.

And really, it's easy available for free on Kobo, so why bother? (Add to Library and then it is a direct epub or pdf download, not DRM'd. )

CRussel · 08-29-2016, 02:11 PM

Also worthy of note on The New Yorker's web site is this more recent article -- Hiroshima and the Inheritance of Trauma, by Sarah Stillman.

Just to be clear, I'll be reading Hiroshima regardless of what we decide to do here as the MobileRead Book Club. But I would really like to have us all read and discuss it. I think it's a worthy read, it's short, it's free, and it will provide the basis for an excellent discussion, IMHO.

bfisher · 08-29-2016, 05:07 PM

Gene Wilder died yesterday. For me, he'll always be the definitive Willie Wonka for dramatizations of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Hamlet53 · 08-29-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CRussel

Yes, that's it. And you can certainly read it directly on that site. However, Condé Nast retains copyright:

Spoiler:

Given their willingness at the time of the initial publication to allow others to reprint the article, I suspect one could get permission. But just because it's freely available doesn't mean you can reproduce it without that permission.

And really, it's easy available for free on Kobo, so why bother? (Add to Library and then it is a direct epub or pdf download, not DRM'd. )

To be clear I was not suggesting copying and distributing that online source, nor turning it into an ebook and adding it to the MR Library. I'm sure the moderators would stop that. I'll just use it as a source to read on my computer since it's so short and convenient. It's been a while but last time I tried getting an ebook from Kobo it was not possible to get a DRM free epub download. This was over a year ago though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRussel

Also worthy of note on The New Yorker's web site is this more recent article -- Hiroshima and the Inheritance of Trauma, by Sarah Stillman.

Just to be clear, I'll be reading Hiroshima regardless of what we decide to do here as the MobileRead Book Club. But I would really like to have us all read and discuss it. I think it's a worthy read, it's short, it's free, and it will provide the basis for an excellent discussion, IMHO.

I'd like to see it win for that reason as well. Even if it does not in the past with some success a separate thread to discuss an interesting book has been put up here.

issybird · 08-29-2016, 05:20 PM

Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.

Not just me, then.

CRussel · 08-29-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet53

To be clear I was not suggesting copying and distributing that online source, nor turning it into an ebook and adding it to the MR Library. I'm sure the moderators would stop that. I'll just use it as a source to read on my computer since it's so short and convenient. It's been a while but last time I tried getting an ebook from Kobo it was not possible to get a DRM free epub download. This was over a year ago though.

Fair enough, and thank you for that clarity.

As for downloading a freebie from Kobo? I just did it. I clicked on the "Download" button from the link I provided, then "View in Library", then "Return to your old library" and finally Download ePub from the dropdown list. What's downloaded is the ePub itself, not an acsm file, since Adobe isn't involved in the transaction at all.

CRussel · 08-29-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.

Not just me, then.

Interesting. Which simply reinforces my opinion that if I want to read Heart of Darkness, I'll read it. Instead of a children's version.

bfisher · 08-29-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.

Not just me, then.

Wow!

JSWolf · 08-29-2016, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today.

Not just me, then.

To be honest,that Reddit thread is pure crap. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a fun book to read and reading such nonsense into it is just crazy.

JSWolf · 08-29-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bfisher

Wow!

Not wow but nut job conspiracy theorists who have no idea what's going on.

JSWolf · 08-29-2016, 10:37 PM

Everyone should vote for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (ad no other book so it can win) for Gene Wilder.

Dazrin · 08-29-2016, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Everyone should vote for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (ad no other book so it can win) for Gene Wilder.

Ok, I voted for it.

I did vote for more than that one though.

JSWolf · 08-30-2016, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dazrin

Ok, I voted for it.

I did vote for more than that one though.

The idea is to JUST vote for Charlie so it can win in honor of Gene Wilder.

View Poll Results: Which classic shall we read for September’s discussion?
Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy	5	23.81%
Hiroshima by John Hersey	9	42.86%
Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie	4	19.05%
The Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux	8	38.10%
2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke	7	33.33%
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl	6	28.57%
Captains Courageous by Rudyard Kipling	7	33.33%
Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ by Lewis Wallace	3	14.29%
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad	13	61.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

08-29-2016, 02:02 PM	#18
CRussel (he/him/his) Posts: 12,296 Karma: 80074820 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC Device: Oasis (Gen3),Paperwhite (Gen10), Voyage, Paperwhite(orig), iPad Air M3	Yes, that's it. And you can certainly read it directly on that site. However, Condé Nast retains copyright: Spoiler: Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement (effective January 1, 2014) and Privacy Policy (effective January 1, 2014). Your California Privacy Rights The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Condé Nast. Given their willingness at the time of the initial publication to allow others to reprint the article, I suspect one could get permission. But just because it's freely available doesn't mean you can reproduce it without that permission. And really, it's easy available for free on Kobo, so why bother? (Add to Library and then it is a direct epub or pdf download, not DRM'd. )

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08-29-2016, 01:26 PM	#17
Hamlet53 Nameless Being	About availability in the US. Perhaps CRussel can confirm, but this looks to be it? http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1946/08/31/hiroshima It's right out there on the Internet so I would assume that copying or downloading this would not be a copyright violation?

08-29-2016, 02:11 PM	#19
CRussel (he/him/his) Posts: 12,296 Karma: 80074820 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC Device: Oasis (Gen3),Paperwhite (Gen10), Voyage, Paperwhite(orig), iPad Air M3	Also worthy of note on The New Yorker's web site is this more recent article -- Hiroshima and the Inheritance of Trauma, by Sarah Stillman. Just to be clear, I'll be reading Hiroshima regardless of what we decide to do here as the MobileRead Book Club. But I would really like to have us all read and discuss it. I think it's a worthy read, it's short, it's free, and it will provide the basis for an excellent discussion, IMHO.

08-29-2016, 05:07 PM	#20
bfisher Wizard Posts: 1,638 Karma: 28483498 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ottawa Canada Device: Sony PRS-T3, Galaxy (Aldiko, Kobo app)	Gene Wilder died yesterday. For me, he'll always be the definitive Willie Wonka for dramatizations of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

08-29-2016, 05:20 PM	#22
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,295 Karma: 234636059 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	Ever since the nominations were finalized, I've had a recurring thought. I finally googled today and found this reddit post, quite coincidentally posted exactly a year ago today. Not just me, then.

08-29-2016, 10:37 PM	#28
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,758 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Everyone should vote for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (ad no other book so it can win) for Gene Wilder.