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Old 07-14-2016, 05:02 PM   #1
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Microsoft wins email server appeal

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...rivacy-n609506

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A federal appeals court ruled for Microsoft Thursday in a case that pitted customer privacy against the government's need for evidence in criminal cases.

A unanimous three-judge panel of the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York said Microsoft cannot be compelled by a search warrant to turn over e-mail data stored on one of the company's servers overseas.

"Warrants traditionally carry territorial limits," the ruling said. "Law enforcement officers may be directed by a court-issued warrant to seize items at locations in the United States and in United States-controlled areas, but their authority generally does not extend further."
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That is one over-reaching bunch of bureaucrats slapped down. Now to see the same logic of territorial limits applied to "the right to be forgotten". Borders exist for a reason. They should be respected.
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That is one over-reaching bunch of bureaucrats slapped down. Now to see the same logic of territorial limits applied to "the right to be forgotten". Borders exist for a reason. They should be respected.

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Good; about time!

If the feds want data stored in Ireland, then they should petition the Irish courts for it. And if they so no, then tough luck.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:43 PM   #4
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How long before someone launches a server into space.
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It wasn't clear to me from the article whose emails were being stored on Irish servers. If they belong to people residing in the USA, then I suspect we'll soon see new laws similar to those recently enacted in Russia and Turkey, requiring that all servers be located within the country. So, if you want to be safe from government intrusion, you better fix that at the source rather than rely on legal loopholes to dodge the ones who make the laws.
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Yep; soon, off shore accounts will be so blasé. Off planet accounts will be the in thing.
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It's not that fans are not needed. It is that fans in a vacuum are useless.Waste heat has to be conducted away, then radiated. Radiation is very inefficient at temperatures that CPUs can tolerate. Keeping CPUs in space cool is way more involved than keeping them out of the Sun, which isn't a problem anyway, because the box they are in does that.
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It wasn't clear to me from the article whose emails were being stored on Irish servers. If they belong to people residing in the USA, then I suspect we'll soon see new laws similar to those recently enacted in Russia and Turkey, requiring that all servers be located within the country. So, if you want to be safe from government intrusion, you better fix that at the source rather than rely on legal loopholes to dodge the ones who make the laws.
This is unconstitutional on the surface and would be laughed at.
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How long before someone launches a server into space.
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A bit longer than it'll take to put them under the sea (which Microsoft is doing right now) in international waters.

There's good technical reasons for going underwater. And now even better ones to go beyond territorial waters.
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This is unconstitutional on the surface and would be laughed at.
In the US it still is.
But a bit of court packing can fix that anytime.
That is why putting the servers out if reach *before* the new regime takes over is important.
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