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Old 06-28-2016, 05:50 PM   #421
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I feel like I am talking to children here. Toddlers to be exact.

Keep throwing yourself on the floor and throw the tantrums. That's ok.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:04 PM   #423
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"Who claims there is a Voyage or Oasis with a gradient that you cannot notice, pic or it didn't happen.. (for the Oasis a light level 19 in darkness on a full text page with the thick side of the device to the left should prove the gradient)"
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I feel like I am talking to children here. Toddlers to be exact.
The point is, children, that whoever finds such a Voyage cannot themselves notice the gradient. That's what was stated above.

That does not mean that a more sensitive person wouldn't see a gradient. The original person is satisfied with his/her unit, and that's all that matters. Someone who is more sensitive to these things might not be satisfied. So what would a picture prove? That a camera can see things that some human eyes cannot, while other human eyes can. We already know that.

If Person A is satisfied with his/her unit, why should (s)he take a photo just to please Person B, who does not actually own this unit?? Person A does not need to *induce* displeasure in themselves. That's silly!

Sensitively sighted persons should already know that many units will not please them. Buy only in person, prepare for many returns, or do not buy one.

But that's already been said. Repeatedly.
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:09 PM   #424
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The point is, children, that whoever finds such a Voyage cannot themselves notice the gradient. That's what was stated above.

That does not mean that a more sensitive person wouldn't see a gradient. The original person is satisfied with his/her unit, and that's all that matters. Someone who is more sensitive to these things might not be satisfied. So what would a picture prove? That a camera can see things that some human eyes cannot, while other human eyes can. We already know that.

If Person A is satisfied with his/her unit, why should (s)he take a photo just to please Person B, who does not actually own this unit?? Person A does not need to *induce* displeasure in themselves. That's silly!

Sensitively sighted persons should already know that many units will not please them. Buy only in person, prepare for many returns, or do not buy one.

But that's already been said. Repeatedly.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:00 PM   #425
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Pictures don't show what you trying to explain. Pic of my PW3 with Spotlight wouldn't show what I was talking about. Yet when I gave the same pic a bit of contrast people on MR Still wouldn't believe me! Yet Amazon did they replaced it no problems.
Posting a picture here is useless.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:23 PM   #426
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Posting a picture is useless because the camera and the eye see 2 different things.
Also, on quality control, I am pretty sure that they look at normal usage. Not extremes.
Yes, if one takes a front lit device into a dark closet and turns the lights all the way up, then yes one would probably see something. That is not normal usage.

And yes, Amazon will replace because some people are more sensitive than others.

Now will everyone please go watch the version of Peter Pan that was out in 1997 and let me know if there is sexual content. Note: you will be watching strictly to find it. (Actual English assignment).
Same idea with the faults, if you go to extremes you will find the faults.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:24 PM   #427
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:30 PM   #429
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If Person A is satisfied with his/her unit, why should (s)he take a photo just to please Person B, who does not actually own this unit??.
Because person A is obviously very upset that they dont have a faulty device. Duh!

Anywho I'm starting to believe that this gradient is really just a marketing ploy to get everyone talking. Keep fighting, kindle owners/disowners! You're falling right into Jeff Bezo's hands :lol:

Also mods can you add Unicode emojis to the forum please? ����

Also is it Bezo's or Bezos? I've been taught that it's Bezo's but doesn't that mean Bezo Is?
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:41 PM   #430
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Because person A is obviously very upset that they dont have a faulty device. Duh!
Person A (here) owns the device. Person B is the one who is upset that Person A likes his/her own device.

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Also is it Bezo's or Bezos? I've been taught that it's Bezo's but doesn't that mean Bezo Is?
You guys speak English "down there" .... apostrophe s also means possessive. Or don't you have schools? (Apologies if you are Maori or other indiginous and not natively English speaking) You only drop the apostrophe with "it".
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Cerem0ny, don't worry about the above post. Your English is just fine and not all Americans are spelling or grammar nazis.
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Person A (here) owns the device. Person B is the one who is upset that Person A likes his/her own device.



You guys speak English "down there" .... apostrophe s also means possessive. Or don't you have schools? (Apologies if you are Maori or other indiginous and not natively English speaking) You only drop the apostrophe with "it".
Bezos is the proper name so the apostrophe would go after the name for a possessive. Also for the plural. Let's go to the Bezos' house. Note the plural because it is Jeff and Jane.

At ceremony don't worry about it. There is usually no apostrophe in a proper name. And nouns that end in s are a pain even for native speakers.
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Sorry. But they asked! Not trying to be a Nazi.
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+1 The Kobo H20 doesn't have a massive color gradient or light cones under those same "extreme" conditions. Why can't Amazon build an e-reader to the same standards as Kobo?
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