|  06-22-2016, 08:52 PM | #46 | 
| Illiterate            Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro | 
			
			from perusing the specs, for forty bucks more the Paperwhite looks to be the better deal. A bit heavier but nearly the same size. Same size screen with nearly twice the resolution, and a backlight. It's been a while since I've had a dedicated Eink reader rather than a phone or tablet. Has the page turn flicking issue been solved? | 
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|  06-22-2016, 09:59 PM | #47 | |
| eReader Wrangler            Posts: 7,949 Karma: 53216495 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Voyage | Quote: 
 (I'm selling the Glo, also. I guess I just like "old tech.") | |
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|  06-22-2016, 11:48 PM | #48 | 
| Sir Penguin of Edinburgh            Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1 | |
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|  06-23-2016, 12:02 AM | #49 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | |
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|  06-23-2016, 01:11 AM | #50 | 
| eReader Wrangler            Posts: 7,949 Karma: 53216495 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Voyage | 
			
			That was my impression. It was light enough but its shape was kind of "blocky." The "Kindle 8" is lighter, shorter, narrower and just as thin as the Paperwhite -- it's even lighter than the Voyage, about the same height and width, though a little thicker. I like the original Touch better, but I wouldn't have an trouble using the Kindle 7 or 8 if it came down to it. Except I like being able to add fonts to the Touch. And I like the old Kindle interface better than the new.
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|  06-23-2016, 02:51 AM | #51 | 
| Member  Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2016 Device: Kindle PW3 | 
			
			I really wish Amazon would make a "cheap budget voyage" with real physical buttons again. I've tried a few store demos of touch-only e-readers and I simply don't like having to put my finger on the screen and back off to skip to the next page. With my NT Kindle I just keep holding the device and simply apply slightly more pressure with the joint of my thumb. No need to move your finger around, easy as pie. The only thing I want on my Kindle 4 is a backlight. But $200 for an ereader (voyage) is simply too expensive for my tastes, particularly because i was not able to find a store demo of the voyage to see if the touch sensitive PagePress sensors would deliver a similar satisfying feedback like the hardware buttons   Either way, the bluetooth connectivity on this thing sounds like a great idea for visually impaired people, kudos for accesibility here, amazon. Not something I am going to need, though. While I am far from filling the 2Gb of my kindle (in fact, I should have more than half of that available, still) I can see how the jump to 4Gb can be benefical for power readers. Last edited by Localhorst86; 06-23-2016 at 03:01 AM. | 
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|  06-23-2016, 03:02 AM | #52 | |
| The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠            Posts: 74,433 Karma: 318076944 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis | Quote: 
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|  06-23-2016, 06:28 AM | #53 | 
| Sir Penguin of Edinburgh            Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1 | 
			
			And I didn't notice the weight or dimensions either, when I was using it. Those details vanished from my perceptions when I was reading. But it was bigger than the KPW. Frankly, I got the impression that Amazon had intentionally made it big anf blocky to make it less attractive than the KPW, and give them something to improve upon in the next model. | 
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|  06-23-2016, 10:04 AM | #54 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,465 Karma: 10684861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20 | |
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|  06-23-2016, 10:06 AM | #55 | 
| The Dank Side of the Moon            Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6 | |
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|  06-23-2016, 12:22 PM | #56 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,277 Karma: 5935030 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: Kobo Aura HD | Yes and no,.. Kindle uses a page refresh method (the name of which escapes me.) that minimizes E-ink ghosting problems. By default, Kindles do not a full page refresh (black flash) unless there are images, or on chapter breaks after several pages. However, when reading with my glasses off and holding the device close, I notice a definite loss of sharpness that way, and prefer to read with the option of full page refreshes. The speed of a page refresh has certainly improved dramatically over the first few generation of devices.) | 
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|  06-23-2016, 01:50 PM | #57 | 
| Language Lover            Posts: 113 Karma: 229368 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Current: PRS-350, Kindle PW // Previous: PRS-505, Kindle 1, Kindle 2 | 
			
			Without physical page turn buttons I don't see any reason to replace what I have now. I haven't looked at a recent Kindle version in person in a while, maybe I should check out how the text resolution looks on these latest models.
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|  06-23-2016, 02:42 PM | #58 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7 | |
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|  06-23-2016, 08:42 PM | #59 | 
| Force-Aware Elf            Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO | 
			
			Hmmmm... Bluetooth... wonder what else that could be used for after jb...
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|  06-23-2016, 10:40 PM | #60 | 
| Addict            Posts: 346 Karma: 1510042 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite | 
			
			I heard a Kindle with white frame would make the e-ink background display looked more grayish instead of white. Is that true? Or would the white Kindle feel more like a book since a real printed book doesn't have a black frame around the pages.
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