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Old 06-22-2016, 12:24 PM   #16
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I see they have again used a very inventive name for this model
All-New Kindle, 6"
sigh ...
The next one will be the "Even-Newer All-New Kindle Ereader" and the one after that will be called the "Really-New Even-Newer All-New Kindle Ereader" and...
This is exactly what I said when they came out with the second PaperWhite model a few years ago, and called it ...
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It was already thin and light. What's with this obsession to make things super thin? Anyway, this is nothing for me to get excited about.

Oh, and they doubled the storage to 4GB.
No, the model it replaces has 4GB as well (I have one).

I pre-ordered a white one. I find I rarely use the front-light on my Paperwhite and the additional layers reduce contrast and clarity. I think this will be better for VoiceView as well since there will be no wear-and-tear associated with repeated plugging in of audio adapter.

Would be interesting if they added another no-front-light model with Oasis form factor and screen resolution. But people seem to like front light despite the trade offs.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:37 PM   #18
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I expect that the "official" name will be: Kindle (8th Generation)
They should've simplified things from the get go. Current models would then be named:
  • Kindle Basic 8
  • Kindle Paperwhite 3
  • Kindle Voyage 1
  • Kindle Oasis 1
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:42 PM   #19
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No, the model it replaces has 4GB as well (I have one).

I pre-ordered a white one. I find I rarely use the front-light on my Paperwhite and the additional layers reduce contrast and clarity. I think this will be better for VoiceView as well since there will be no wear-and-tear associated with repeated plugging in of audio adapter.

Would be interesting if they added another no-front-light model with Oasis form factor and screen resolution. But people seem to like front light despite the trade offs.
To my mind the trade-off in screen clarity only occurs if you read in direct sunlight. In virtually all other lighting conditions, the improved clarity added by the light far outweighs the small loss of contrast due to the presence of the light diffuser.
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No, the model it replaces has 4GB as well (I have one).
I have one too, but never paid attention to how much storage it has.

EDIT: the memory referred to by Amazon is more than likely, RAM ...thanks jhowell

Then Amazon lied. From their press release:

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The all-new Kindle is thinner and lighter and has twice the memory compared to the previous generation Kindle. Now available in black and white color options, the new Kindle features a more rounded design, making it easy and comfortable to hold in one hand at any angle for extended reading sessions.

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Old 06-22-2016, 12:49 PM   #21
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My one concern is what "thinner and lighter" will mean in terms of battery life, particularly when it comes to TTS. TTS is tough on the battery (the CPU is working constantly, rather than only on page turns) and on a standard PW3, VoiceView drains the battery in 6h. A smaller battery on the new Kindle would almost certainly mean an even shorter battery life.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:56 PM   #22
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I have one too, but never paid attention to how much storage it has.

Then Amazon lied. From their press release:
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The all-new Kindle is thinner and lighter and has twice the memory compared to the previous generation Kindle. Now available in black and white color options, the new Kindle features a more rounded design, making it easy and comfortable to hold in one hand at any angle for extended reading sessions.

Perhaps by "memory" they are referring to RAM. I believe it was discussed in another thread that the TTS software requires more RAM than the current model has.

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Perhaps by "memory" they are referring to RAM. I believe it was discussed in another thread that the TTS software requires more RAM than the current model has.
Yes, that makes sense. VoiceView only works on devices with 512MB RAM: Voyage, PW3, and Oasis. It doesn't work on the PW2 and the "old" basic Kindle, both of which have only 256MB RAM.
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Perhaps by "memory" they are referring to RAM. I believe it was discussed in another thread that the TTS software requires more RAM than the current model has.
I bet you're right. Talk was, the previous model didn't have enough RAM for VoiceView.

EDIT: I corrected my post.
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It was already thin and light. What's with this obsession to make things super thin? Anyway, this is nothing for me to get excited about.

Oh, and they doubled the storage to 4GB.
Yeah, I know. Somethings, too thin is uncomfortable. I have a bigger case on my phone for that reason.
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So, interestingly enough, they've launched a new Kindle on Amazon.ca for $79.99 CDN. Most things sound a lot like the Amazon.com one, but there's no mention at all about accessibility or Bluetooth.
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It was already thin and light. What's with this obsession to make things super thin? Anyway, this is nothing for me to get excited about.
What he said Pretty soon, a big sneeze will blow the reader off the table.

4G is a lot of Text type books.
Not so, if you are a Manga fan.


Too many folk use 'Memory' to refer to 'Storage'

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Good point, Harry. Because it's the battery that gets the hits, as the other components are probably about the same.

Bluetooth audio for voice view and tts in basic but not paperwhite and oasis. Companies need to think of accessibility as a desirable feature that helps not only the disabled, rather than something they have to do to comply with gov requirements (and contracts).

I don't think I can go back to unlit 167ppp pearl screen.
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So, interestingly enough, they've launched a new Kindle on Amazon.ca for $79.99 CDN. Most things sound a lot like the Amazon.com one, but there's no mention at all about accessibility or Bluetooth.
I see no mention of it on the UK site as well. Sure hope they're not removing it for non-US customers.
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I did; and I know better. Shame on me
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