Ewww, fantasy is bad! Won't you think of the Children?

[mbovenka]

Originally Posted by mbovenka

I very much liked Hersenschimmen by Bernlef, though. Very impressive book.

For those interested: it's about a man who slowly loses himself to Alzheimer's. It's translated into English as 'Out of Mind' by J. Bernlef.

The Dutch version is available as an ebook, but it doesn't look like the English version is. Only a short book (the Dutch version is 188 pages) but very much worth the read.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Certainly not. Literature is being written today, but I think that time is the only factor which will tell us which literature is sufficiently culturally important to be worthy of being taught in schools. Doesn't need to be 100 years, but a few decades, certainly.

If a book is relevant now, I see no reason why it cannot be used. If it becomes not relevant sometime in the future, a different book can be used.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

If a book is relevant now, I see no reason why it cannot be used. If it becomes not relevant sometime in the future, a different book can be used.

How does one define a relevant book?

[Cinisajoy]

Katsunami,
Here you go
9-3÷1/3+1

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Katsunami,
Here you go
9-3÷1/3+1

There 9, because you wrote it in a line. Bad habit to mix "%" and "/" at same time, but not illegal. If you wanted to have "1/3" meaning a fraction, then you must write it "(1/3)" because:

    1         1
3 % - = 3 % ( - ) = 3 % ( 1 / 3 ) = 3 × ( 3 / 1 ) = 3 × 3 = 9
    3         3

        vs.

3 % 1 / 3 = 3 % 1 % 3   = ( 3 % 1 ) ÷ 3 = 1

Because left to right always on same hierachy.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

There 9, because you wrote it in a line. Bad habit to mix "%" and "/" at same time, but not illegal. If you wanted to have "1/3" meaning a fraction, then you must write it "(1/3)" because:

    1         1
3 % - = 3 % ( - ) = 3 % ( 1 / 3 ) = 3 × ( 3 / 1 ) = 3 × 3 = 9
    3         3

        vs.

3 % 1 / 3 = 3 % 1 % 3   = ( 3 % 1 ) ÷ 3 = 1

Because left to right always on same hierachy.

That was exactly how that question was written on a test.
Why I thought I would put it here since we have been discussing both reading and math here.

I do agree badly written.
I would have liked 9-3÷.33+1
Oh wait that doesn't work because of the first division sign.

[WT Sharpe]

(1) 9–3÷⅓+1=9

(2) Kids should be taught the classics, but modern writers and and stories that encourage reading simply because they are enjoyable should not be ignored. Balance is everything.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

(1) 9–3÷⅓+1=9

How do you get the answer 9?

I'd interpret the above as:

9 - (3÷⅓) + 1

= 9 - 9 + 1

= 1

[WT Sharpe]

Originally Posted by HarryT

How do you get the answer 9?



I'd interpret the above as:



9 - (3÷⅓) + 1



= 9 - 9 + 1



= 1

Oops! You're correct. I mistakenly multiplied 3 by ⅓ rather than divided 3 by ⅓, a very elementary mistake. 😱

[HarryT]

Thanks - just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed something .

[Apache]

And we thought we would never have to use our math skills after we graduated.
Apache

[HarryT]

If anyone else thinks that the answer is something other than "1", can you explain your reasoning, please?

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If anyone else thinks that the answer is something other than "1", can you explain your reasoning, please?

Which one are you talking about?
This one?

9–3÷⅓+1=1

or this one?

9–3÷1/3+1=9

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Which one are you talking about?
This one?

9–3÷⅓+1=1

or this one?

9–3÷1/3+1=9

I would read those as the same (other than the answer, of course). How do you get the second one to come out as 9?

[shalym]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If anyone else thinks that the answer is something other than "1", can you explain your reasoning, please?

The original problem as posted is:
9-3÷1/3+1
I interpreted it as:
9-(3%1)/3+1
9-(3)/3+1
9-1+1
8+1
9

The "/" means division in a math problem. So...when I did the problem using order of operations, I did the first division problem (3/1), then the second division problem (3/3), then the subtraction, then the addition.

The correct way to write the problem would be:
9-3%(1/3)+1

In that case, the 1/3 would have been the first calculation, so that it would be:
9-3%(1/3)+1
9-3%.33+1
9-9+1
0+1
1

Two completely different math problems.

Shari