Amazon announces Kindle Oasis

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Yolina

They could use the so-far mostly unsold UK stocks to fulfil those US orders Merlot and black wifi only still coming up with April 27th delivery here. They probably hadn't planned on walnut being popular - that's got a June 6th delivery date now, so that's obviously just the lack of stock for the cover holding these up rather than a lack of devices.

Interesting. It looks like the Merlot color is the most popular in the US--when I add one with a Merlot cover to my cart, I get a delivery date of September 2, compared to June 6 for the Walnut and May 16 for the black.

Shari

[Josieb1]

Deleted, I misread a previous post.

[Yolina]

Originally Posted by shalym

Interesting. It looks like the Merlot color is the most popular in the US--when I add one with a Merlot cover to my cart, I get a delivery date of September 2, compared to June 6 for the Walnut and May 16 for the black.

Shari

That was yesterday as of now the UK dates are:

- Black April 29
- Merlot June 20
- Walnut June 21

Maybe they are using some the European stock for the US. It looks better if it's on backorder everywhere

[Josieb1]

I can't help but wonder how many might be returned.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by Crhis

Ah that's where the 5g number came from then. I'd say that's a little misleading.

It's not misleading. You don't need a cover for the H2O to achieve it's battery life of 8 weeks. To get the 9 week battery life of the Oasis, the battery case is required; otherwise, you'll only get 2 weeks.

That's why the Oasis is heavier than most other ereaders.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by rcentros

And what's a Kobo Aura H20 with cover?

Irrelevant, since a cover isn't required to get its claimed battery life. Not so for the Oasis, where its special battery cover is required.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

But the US list price is before any sales tax. And in the UK we have VAT included in the list price:

£218.67+20% = £262.40

Actual UK list price: £269.99

It's a high price, but not out of line with the US price.

US sales taxes range from 0% to just a tad over 10%.

[Shane R]

It seems to me that many of the detractors really want the new Kindle, but aren't willing to spend the asking price for it. This explains the derision for those who are willing to pay for it, as it threatens to encourages Amazon and delays any anticipated pricing reductions that they're hoping Amazon might otherwise offer.

People keep talking about the poll in the Kindle forum. In that poll, almost 1/5 of the respondents indicated that they are likely to purchase it. If those numbers were extrapolated out to a 4 device lineup (Basic, PW, Voyage, Oasis), I'm betting Amazon would be very happy to see the top-end device making up 20% of its sales, with the bulk of their sales coming from the middle tier devices.

And inadvertently, that poll captures what Amazon is attempting to do. It's unscientific, but that big 60% + number at the bottom (No, nada, never) still represents a sale to Amazon. Those people aren't leaving the ecosystem; they're just purchasing Kindle models other than the Oasis.

And I still think this body style migrates downstream in a year or two.

[AkiraReader]

Originally Posted by shalym

delivery date of September 2, compared to June 6 for the Walnut and May 16 for the black.

September 2nd? Did Amazon only stock 4 units for release, or is this device really that popular.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by rcentros

The Motley Fool is always trying to stir up controversy so you'll follow their link to see their ads. I don't know how many times they've stoked the Samsung vs Apple debate using similar headlines. I ignore them (and few others like them) now. I absolutely don't take anything they write seriously.

It's called "click-bait" and it's a stupid, evil marketing trick that makes me never want to read anything from the site again.

Shari

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by Shane R

It seems to me that many of the detractors really want the new Kindle, but aren't willing to spend the asking price for it. This explains the derision for those who are willing to pay for it, as it threatens to encourages Amazon and delays any anticipated pricing reductions that they're hoping Amazon might otherwise offer.

People keep talking about the poll in the Kindle forum. In that poll, almost 1/5 of the respondents indicated that they are likely to purchase it. If those numbers were extrapolated out to a 4 device lineup (Basic, PW, Voyage, Oasis), I'm betting Amazon would be very happy to see the top-end device making up 20% of its sales, with the bulk coming from the middle tier devices.

Here's the thing to remember about that poll: aside from being unscientific, that big 63% number at the bottom (No, nada, never) still represents a sale to Amazon. Those people aren't leaving the ecosystem; they're just purchasing Kindle models other than the Oasis.

And I still think this body style migrates downstream in a year or two.

I don't think most us object to the style of the device. It's the split battery and the added expense of the battery case that has to be included that's the issue. And No most us don't WANT the new Kindle as it just won't work for us.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by rcentros

It seems that most of the hands-on reviewers at first had a negative impression of its shape but found -- after using a bit -- that they liked the way it fit in their hands. I won't -- personally -- pay $300 for an eReader but I can still appreciate it how light and thin it is.

Light and thin isn't difficult to achieve when you remove 78% of the battery and make it thicker on one side. To get the full battery life, the battery cover is required; and then it's no longer light and thin. It's now heavy and thick.

[Crhis]

Originally Posted by tubemonkey

It's not misleading. You don't need a cover for the H2O to achieve it's battery life of 8 weeks. To get the 9 week battery life of the Oasis, the battery case is required; otherwise, you'll only get 2 weeks.

That's why the Oasis is heavier than most other ereaders.

Clutching at straws.

[tubemonkey]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

All their advertising is a contradiction. At the end of the day they have split the battery which is why it must be sold with a cover and that is why it's so expensive.

Absolutely!

[Yolina]

Originally Posted by Shane R

It seems to me that the detractors really want the new Kindle, but aren't willing to spend the asking price for it. This explains the derision for those who are willing to pay for it; it encourages Amazon and it delays any pricing reductions that Amazon might otherwise offer.

Nope, sorry I wouldn't want it even if it were cheaper. Others are free to buy one if they wish, what they do with the money is none of my business. And Amazon don't do usually do pricing reductions in the UK.

People keep talking about the poll in the Kindle forum. In that poll, almost 1/5 of the respondents indicated that they are likely to purchase it. If those numbers were extrapolated out to a 4 device lineup (Basic, PW, Voyage, Oasis), I'm betting Amazon would be very happy to see the top-end device making up 20% of its sales.

This is MR, we're not your your typical average customers Normally you'd get people jumping on a new toy, and would expect 70% to say they're getting one

Here's the thing to remember about that poll: aside from being unscientific, that big 63% number at the bottom (No, nada, never) still represents a sale to Amazon. Those people aren't leaving the ecosystem; they're just purchasing Kindle models other than the Oasis.

They likely already have a Kindle (or 2, or 3)

And I still think this body style migrates downstream in a year or two.

Oh god please no.