Amazon announces Kindle Oasis - Page 52

pdurrant · 04-15-2016, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yolina

Look at the price in the € Amazon stores though, it's €290, that includes VAT and is roughly £230, add another €10-15 for delivery to the UK so the Oasis would be yours for £240 all in or thereabouts - £50 isn't a bad saving. In comparison, with the Voyage you'd only save £10 or so if ordering from a € Amazon store once p&p is taken into account

I just tried at the French store. They'll even charge my card in Sterling - total price £244.41, a saving of £25.58

Although I don't know if the order would actually go through.

Josieb1 · 04-15-2016, 05:22 AM

My most expensive ereader ever was a Sony PRS 600 at £250. That was in the days before the Kindle Keyboard was released. It may not have had the best screen in hindsight but it was made of metal and it was gorgeous. The Sony PRS 650 cost me £175.00 and the PRS 505 £150.

The highest price since those days is the Voyage at £169.99 (and I got £20 off buying it from Argos so it cost me £150). That is my limit now for an ereader. The heady days of paying for Sony devices are long gone. The Oasis offers nothing over the Voyage, in fact without adaptive lighting I think it's a step down. Amazon are basically making consumers pay over the odds for a leather case because they split the battery to make it lighter. That's not progress to me.

Yolina · 04-15-2016, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

I just tried at the French store. They'll even charge my card in Sterling - total price £244.41, a saving of £25.58

Although I don't know if the order would actually go through.

I wouldn't let them do the currency conversion, it's going to be massively skewed in their favour

What's the total price in € with p&p to the UK?

There are cards that use the Mastercard rate and don't charge a non-Sterling transaction fee.

Edit: the Oasis is €290, using the rate I'm given by Revolut prepay (their app handily gives you the conversion rate they use there and then) I would pay £230.37 for the device plus I'm guessing less than a tenner p&p.

rcentros · 04-15-2016, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I have mine in a Gecko Slim fit waterproof cover and it weighs 360 grams. Remember this is a larger screen ereader at 6.8 inches so it will weigh more than the Oasis.

Okay 12.6 ounces, so a little over 4 ounces heavier than the Oasis in its case. Personally the bigger screen is not an attraction for me. But I understand folks differ on this, that's why choice is good. If I owned an Oasis I would mostly be reading without the case, so I'm looking 4.6 ounces (less weight than my very small Android smartphone -- a Motorola Admiral). That 4.6 ounces, using a 6" eInk screen, impresses me.

rcentros · 04-15-2016, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

The Oasis offers nothing over the Voyage ...

Except it's lighter, has a completely different shape that many folks (who have actually used it) like a lot and it has more LEDs, which are supposed to light the screen more evenly.

Josieb1 · 04-15-2016, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rcentros

Except it's lighter, has a completely different shape that many folks (who have actually used it) like a lot and it has more LEDs, which are supposed to light the screen more evenly.

The software is still the same (although there may be a new font as seen on a video review, but that looked lighter than Bookerly) so it's only the form factor and weight that's different.

The weight isn't an improvement if you always read with a cover (I do) and the fact that to get the battery life you must have the cover, and that is why it's so expensive it what bugs me. They are claiming long battery life which you only get with the cover, and yet claiming it's light, which you only get reading without a cover, something I would never do.

All their advertising is a contradiction. At the end of the day they have split the battery which is why it must be sold with a cover and that is why it's so expensive.

Yolina · 04-15-2016, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

although there may be a new font as seen on a video review

The new font is actually the one that's currently being used in the UI on the latest versions of the FW

I quite like it - it's fairly similar to my custom font of choice that I've been using for many years on my Kindles

Josieb1 · 04-15-2016, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yolina

The new font is actually the one that's currently being used in the UI on the latest versions of the FW

I quite like it - it's fairly similar to my custom font of choice that I've been using for many years on my Kindles

Maybe we'll get it on the PW3 and Voyage in a firmware update eventually.

zerospinboson · 04-15-2016, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

The Oasis isn't $270. It's $289.99. But that's for the Special Offers version which is only available in the US. Without special offers it's $309.99

This is neither here nor there, but why go along with this (confusing) Newspeak? Just call it the version with vs w/o ads.

Yolina · 04-15-2016, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

Maybe we'll get it on the PW3 and Voyage in a firmware update eventually.

In the meantime they could always tout it as being exclusive to the Oasis or something. Which wouldn't be strictly true but hey.... marketing fluff

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It's obviously already on the PW and Voyage but not accessible as a user-selectable font for books.

Josieb1 · 04-15-2016, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Yolina

In the meantime they could always tout it as being exclusive to the Oasis or something. Which wouldn't be strictly true but hey.... marketing fluff

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It's obviously already on the PW and Voyage but not accessible as a user-selectable font for books.

Actually it's surprising they haven't mentioned this 'new and exclusive' font.

Yolina · 04-15-2016, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

Actually it's surprising they haven't mentioned this 'new and exclusive' font.

I think it might actually get them into some trouble if they did, given that Ember is all over the PW and Voyage. I suppose if they carefully worded the fluff, they could get away with it.

jj2me · 04-15-2016, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Erich Zann

From my computation posted in this thread yesterday, it'll be close to 5 hours of continuous reading (though 6…7 H of intense reading is probably closer to reality).

At the oft-repeated Li-ion/polymer battery lifetime of 300-500 full charge-discharge cycles (or equivalent), the Oasis will be useless in a year or two in the case of someone who reads a lot.

That's the real problem with such a small internal battery, whether or not you read with the cover on or not (it's still powered by the internal battery, discharging-charging in smaller but more frequent increments). There better be a relatively easy way to replace it.

pdurrant · 04-15-2016, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason90

The voyage is $199 and £169 here ,the higher the amount the greater the difference should be,basic economics people!

Don't neglect the special offers discount. The Voyage is $219.99 in the US without special offers.

Today's exchange rate is $1:£0.705400

$219.99 = £155.18

£155.18+VAT = £186.22
Actual UK price: £169.99

And that's because the exchange rate was different when Amazon set the UK price of the Voyage when it was released. If they were releasing the Voyage now, they would probably list it at £189.99.

And this change in the exchange rates, coupled with Amazon's general policy of not changing a local price, leads to the situation where the Oasis is £100 more expensive than the Voyage in the UK, but only $90 more expensive than the Voyage in the US.

Yolina · 04-15-2016, 07:27 AM

It's taken a loooong 2 days

but all colours are now on back order in the UK (with black being either less popular or they just have far more stock of that colour - you can still get one of these only 2 days later than the original April 27 release date).

Usually stuff goes on back order within hours.

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Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,090 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2, Clara BW	My most expensive ereader ever was a Sony PRS 600 at £250. That was in the days before the Kindle Keyboard was released. It may not have had the best screen in hindsight but it was made of metal and it was gorgeous. The Sony PRS 650 cost me £175.00 and the PRS 505 £150. The highest price since those days is the Voyage at £169.99 (and I got £20 off buying it from Argos so it cost me £150). That is my limit now for an ereader. The heady days of paying for Sony devices are long gone. The Oasis offers nothing over the Voyage, in fact without adaptive lighting I think it's a step down. Amazon are basically making consumers pay over the odds for a leather case because they split the battery to make it lighter. That's not progress to me.

04-15-2016, 07:27 AM	#780
Yolina Wizard Posts: 1,179 Karma: 11573197 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: London, UK Device: Voyage	It's taken a loooong 2 days but all colours are now on back order in the UK (with black being either less popular or they just have far more stock of that colour - you can still get one of these only 2 days later than the original April 27 release date). Usually stuff goes on back order within hours.