New "top of the line Kindle" details coming next week

[jackie_w]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

I buy whatever I want, as close to 'perfect' (for me) as possible, and if no product gets close enough, I buy nothing. No marketing has ever managed to change my mind on that.

You're never going to win Amazon's Customer of the Year award with that level of personal restraint

[Phogg]

Originally Posted by Jason90

If Alexa on kindle results in TTS support then that would be interesting, not a sole reason to upgrade but nice .

That would mean it will need microphones and speakers though, which could also lead to many other possibilities.

Not if it is intended to be used with a Bluetooth speaker that works with phones or if you have a set of earbuds. Then you get the functionality without taking up the component space.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by jackie_w

You're never going to win Amazon's Customer of the Year award with that level of personal restraint

Nah, it's not restraint, really. I've just bought, sold, re-bought and re-sold too much stuff over the years, which cost me too much money. It goes like this:

1. "I want X."
2. "Damn, that's expensive. I'll go for A. It's about 80% right."
3. "Grrr. It's not right enough. I'll sell A and go for B. It's about 87% right."

Rinse and repeat 2 and 3, and end up with X in the end... having lost money by first buying other stuff.

I've just, at some point, decided to not do that anymore and either go for X immediately (if realistically possible), lower my expectations/demands, or, if both are not possible or desirable, forget about buying the product entirely.

I've found that in the end, spending more costs you less

[joblack]

I would be more interested in an jailbroke liquavista device. Android and liquavista sounds great.

[Jason90]

Originally Posted by joblack

I would be more interested in an jailbroke liquavista device. Android and liquavista sounds great.

Edit:sorry realised Amazon recently set up manufacturing factories so maybe it could be possible.

But yes android functionality + liquavista would be SWEEET

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by Jason90

Edit:sorry realised Amazon recently set up manufacturing factories so maybe it could be possible.

But yes android functionality + liquavista would be SWEEET

Well, the way Amazon rolls, Kindle firmware is HTML5 on Linux and the Fire Tablets run a Google-free Android fork called FireOS. Bezos called it a Kindle so if it should be a Liquavista gadget it would most likely *not* run full FireOS. But...
Things change.

At this point all we know is Bezos took the unusual step of tweeting about it.
Which he doesn't normally do.
It could be a Liquavista Kindle or it could be an Alexa Kindle or it could be a wearable Kindle. Or it could be "just" a new and improved Voyage.

With Amazon you never know.

Nate has more details:

http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...dy-on-the-way/

Turns out there's more than one new Kindle incoming.
And the cover with a battery is a solar cover.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

Tell that to the people putting $1000 deposits on a $35K car they won't see for two years. $10B worth of orders in less than two days. No wonder Apple tried to buy them.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...rst-36-n550121

Or the people who pre-ordered a million Echos in two weeks:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-i...ed-echo-2016-4

Some toys just click.

You misunderstand. The T3 is the last 6" Reader that Sony made.

[JSWolf]

On MR, T3 stands for the Sony Reader PRS-T3. If you want to talk Tesla Model 3, you need to find a new abbreviation as T3 is taken and means something else.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You misunderstand. The T3 is the last 6" Reader that Sony made.

And Tesla's model 3 being the subject of the exchange, with no smiley on your contribution, I assumed you were serious and referring to something new and shiny like the car and new Kindle(s), not roadkill.

No biggie.

[Barty]

Alexa is useless to me since I can't talk, but if that is what it takes to get TTS, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet.

Does liquavista have better contrast than e-ink? How high a PPI have they achieved? I don't want a poorer quality display just to have high refresh or color.

Come on Amazon, entice me

[barryem]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

Normally yes, but if you have the DeDRM-tools set up correctly, there's a huge hole in the walls.

To be honest, the DeDRM-tools and rapidly maturing Calibre between 2010 and 2011 pulled me over the line to try an e-reader again after I bought and sold my first one in 2007.

I use Calibre and back up all my Kindle books. Sure it's easy but that's not the point at all that I was trying to make.

What if Amazon just sold the books and not the device! Then other companies would start competing with one another to make the best reader for ebooks. The smartest ones, probably the most successful ones, would be able to handle books from any store. So we'd have a wide variety of devices to choose from, one to match whatever our preference might be, and we could be sure it would work natively with whatever store we choose to buy ebooks from.

So I have my 5" Samsung Galaxy e-ink reader and I go shopping for books, right from the device, on Amazon, Kobo, B&N, Feedbooks, Gutenberg, etc. and buy from the one that offers the book I want at the best price.

You go shopping on your 6.8" HTC E-ink 9 and do the same thing.

This would make for a far more rational ebook market and also would render DRM at least a little more innocuous.

Of course some of you silly people would probably buy the HP model and it would fall apart next week. Or the Apple version that would electrocute you if you try to go to Amazon to buy your book.

Barry

[Jason90]

Originally Posted by Barty

Alexa is useless to me since I can't talk, but if that is what it takes to get TTS, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet.

Does liquavista have better contrast than e-ink? How high a PPI have they achieved? I don't want a poorer quality display just to have high refresh or color.

Come on Amazon, entice me

Don't quote me on this but i think for black and white content the liquavista appears the same as eink,the problem with the first gen liquavista displays was its very poor colour representation,Amazon didn't buy the company and spend all these years to develop and release something that isn't a substantial improvement over the previous generation.

I don't think it's going to be as good as the best lcd's or amoled screens out there in terms of colour 'pop' but as long as it doesn't look washed out and utter crap then it should be fine.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by barryem

I use Calibre and back up all my Kindle books. Sure it's easy but that's not the point at all that I was trying to make.

What if Amazon just sold the books and not the device! Then other companies would start competing with one another to make the best reader for ebooks. The smartest ones, probably the most successful ones, would be able to handle books from any store. So we'd have a wide variety of devices to choose from, one to match whatever our preference might be, and we could be sure it would work natively with whatever store we choose to buy ebooks from.

So I have my 5" Samsung Galaxy e-ink reader and I go shopping for books, right from the device, on Amazon, Kobo, B&N, Feedbooks, Gutenberg, etc. and buy from the one that offers the book I want at the best price.

You go shopping on your 6.8" HTC E-ink 9 and do the same thing.

This would make for a far more rational ebook market and also would render DRM at least a little more innocuous.

Of course some of you silly people would probably buy the HP model and it would fall apart next week. Or the Apple version that would electrocute you if you try to go to Amazon to buy your book.

Barry

All *that* could have happened...
...if the market had been allowed to mature naturally.

The Agency Conspiracy and the four hour price war put an end to it in June 2010.
Now we deal with the consequences: walled gardens as far as the eye can see.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by Barty

Alexa is useless to me since I can't talk, but if that is what it takes to get TTS, I guess I'll have to bite the bullet.

Does liquavista have better contrast than e-ink? How high a PPI have they achieved? I don't want a poorer quality display just to have high refresh or color.

Come on Amazon, entice me

You can use the Alexa app, or Alexa web browser interface to control Echo/Dot/Tap/FireTV. No need to talk.

Liquavista has not shipped a single screen, so no specs exist.

In any case, contrast will vary depending on which mode it is in: reflective, back-lit, or both. PPI will depend on the underlying panel, but it will be whatever Amazon decides is necessary for a given device. I would expect something in the mid-200s like the Fire tablets, and I'd expect the contrast to be very good in back-lit mode, and hopefully at least as good as e-ink in reflective mode. Of course with a color device, there can be some customization of colors used for text/background, as well as 'blue filter' for night reading.

That said, I'm starting to reduce my expectation that there will be a Liquavista device announced (as more 'information' has trickled in). Hope my pessimism proves unfounded.

A solar powered cover does not interest me in the least, unless we do get a Liquavista device, and that is necessary to achieve decent (better than Fire) time between charges.

[sun surfer]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

Well, the way Amazon rolls, Kindle firmware is HTML5 on Linux and the Fire Tablets run a Google-free Android fork called FireOS. Bezos called it a Kindle so if it should be a Liquavista gadget it would most likely *not* run full FireOS. But...
Things change.

At this point all we know is Bezos took the unusual step of tweeting about it.
Which he doesn't normally do.
It could be a Liquavista Kindle or it could be an Alexa Kindle or it could be a wearable Kindle. Or it could be "just" a new and improved Voyage.

With Amazon you never know.

Nate has more details:

http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...dy-on-the-way/

Turns out there's more than one new Kindle incoming.
And the cover with a battery is a solar cover.

From the article:

He said that the new Kindle we're going to hear about next week lacks the haptic feedback found on the Voyage (yay!) but may have page turn buttons (double yay!) and accelerometers.

I really love the haptic feedback page turn sensors on the Voyage. I would much prefer those to regular page turn buttons or swipes on a newer Kindle. If what he says is true I hope it's for the mid-range model and not the high-end one.