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Old 04-01-2016, 05:15 AM   #331
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I'm still waiting for my Earl...
Have you been told when delivery is now expected? I've not seen any updates in quite a while.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:39 AM   #332
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Have you been told when delivery is now expected? I've not seen any updates in quite a while.
I think that is why he is still waiting for something to happen.
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:17 PM   #333
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Have you been told when delivery is now expected? I've not seen any updates in quite a while.
I'm still waiting for an update on the Earl.

Earl is a case study in how not to manage a crowd funding project with issues.
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Actually, the indiegogo page says $699 + shipping. There doesn't seem to be any indication of what the shipping charges are but maybe if you go through with the process it tells you before you buy. Or maybe you never find out until the readers are actually ready to be shipped and then they're held ransom until you pay?
When people go through the checkout process, it adds on the cost of shipping. That's why you are seeing pledges of $769 or $789 when people have claimed the $729 perk.

However, that shipping charge is included in the total funds collected towards the target. Thus, to place an order for 60 units at $700 a piece, you would need to collect more than $42000.

Had they simply reached 100% of their target, they would not have had sufficient funds to place the order as the shipping fees which backers had already paid would have been included in that $42000. What would have happened then?

Of course, the campaign is now well over its target so that is no longer a concern. However, if the campaign organizers overlooked something so basic when they were establishing their campaign goal, it would make me wonder what else they might have overlooked.

Think I will wait until backers receive their ereaders and until there are some independent reviews of the device until I consider placing an order.

Actually, I'm rather hoping that Kobo or somebody else might take notice and put out a device with superior specs.
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I'm still waiting for an update on the Earl.

Earl is a case study in how not to manage a crowd funding project with issues.
It's also a lesson in how one should make sure one has the engineering talent (which knows what it is doing) before one starts the project.

Quigle had overly ambitious goals, but not the engineers to make them happen.
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:33 AM   #336
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It's also a lesson in how one should make sure one has the engineering talent (which knows what it is doing) before one starts the project.

Quigle had overly ambitious goals, but not the engineers to make them happen.
The problem is that with any kind of project where you are funding the development virtually, there's very little way to determine if the people running the project are qualified or not.

Also, the Earl people seemed to be more managing the project then doing the actual engineering, they were using the manufacturer for the actual engineering.
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The problem is that with any kind of project where you are funding the development virtually, there's very little way to determine if the people running the project are qualified or not.

Also, the Earl people seemed to be more managing the project then doing the actual engineering, they were using the manufacturer for the actual engineering.
They also didn't have the management experience or know-how to stick to their guns. They switched manufacturers in pursuit of features when really they should have released what they could and apologized for missing stuff. If they had, they'd have a product out instead of being an in-joke.
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They also didn't have the management experience or know-how to stick to their guns. They switched manufacturers in pursuit of features when really they should have released what they could and apologized for missing stuff. If they had, they'd have a product out instead of being an in-joke.
I don't think their first HW partner could have made the Earl, as promised. But yes, Squigle should have released something (call it a Mark zero, or a prototype). It would have found a market, and helped build interest.
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I don't think their first HW partner could have made the Earl, as promised. But yes, Squigle should have released something (call it a Mark zero, or a prototype). It would have found a market, and helped build interest.
Surely they should have called it the Knight, then they could work up through the versions Knight>>Baronet>>Baron>>Viscount>>Earl.

They could release the Duke as an enhanced version

And now I have "The Duke of Earl" as an ear worm.
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And now I have "The Duke of Earl" as an ear worm.
As well you should.
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Surely they should have called it the Knight, then they could work up through the versions Knight>>Baronet>>Baron>>Viscount>>Earl.

They could release the Duke as an enhanced version

And now I have "The Duke of Earl" as an ear worm.
After making that joke, you deserve it.
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They could release the Duke as an enhanced version

And now I have "The Duke of Earl" as an ear worm.
Here, let me reinforce that for you

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You know, the lack of sympathy is just terrible

Ear worm still going, turns out it's true and nothing can stop the Duke of Earl.
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You know, the lack of sympathy is just terrible

Ear worm still going, turns out it's true and nothing can stop the Duke of Earl.
I'm so sorry you have a Duke stuck in your ear.
Let me help you get it out.
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If that one doesn't work click the next button
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this is the song that never ends.

Surely between the bus, Barney and Lamb Chop, you can get rid of that Duke.
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