Sigil or Calibre? - Page 6

fbrzvnrnd · 03-31-2016, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riqiv23

My cover pages (back and front) were done in a Mac program called Swift Publisher I like to work on.

1) Should I can download Inscape?
2) I'm thinking of doing this any way and will it require Quartz?
https://inkscape.org/en/download/mac-os/

Here's a vid of how it works for the conversion process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cZk08x_rAI

Or SP will export as: PDF, TIFF, JPEG, Portable Network Graphics image and EPS

3) Are any of these usable for my project in Sigil/Calibre?

For the cover my suggestion is to see the cover: not all is good for SVG. If there are pictures, better is JPG. If there are flat colors, PNG.
SVG is nice, but if there are text (and fonts), Ibooks have *big* problem in SVG fonts. JPG and PNG could be a good choice. Please do not make a BIG cover. Usually I prefer to stay inside 140k, more or less. Older ebook reader could be stressed by too big images.

Riqiv23 · 03-31-2016, 05:04 PM

Hmm, I've exported pages from Sibelius to SVG and put in to Sigil. The manual says:
Switch to Book View by clicking the Book View button , selecting the menu item View→Book View or its keyboard shortcut:

I see neither a Book View button and there's no "Book View" in the View menu.

For the Calibre manual I see Export Files and a search for the word "import" delivers nothing.

This is what is disheartening. Even the most simple beginner task seems hidden someplace?

It reminds me when I tried to construct my own website using Dreamweaver . . . too hard. Then programs like Weebly came along and WIX came along and life was good!

All help manuals should start with opening files and viewing them.

Can someone help me w/the "Book View" for files in Sigil and loading SVG's into Calibre?

p.i of my book in Sigil is attached :-)

It probably shouldn't be in "images" folder.

Is SVG the proper format or should I do the text in WORD and insert images?

Thx,

Turtle91 · 03-31-2016, 05:32 PM

Here is an image of the Book View Button:

And if you click on "View" in the menu it is the second item down the list...under toolbars.... it has the same image of a book...and it has the title "Book View"

I can't really help with the mac aspect...choices have consequences...but Sigil works fine.

Riqiv23 · 03-31-2016, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Here is an image of the Book View Button:

And if you click on "View" in the menu it is the second item down the list...under toolbars.... it has the same image of a book...and it has the title "Book View"

...but Sigil works fine.

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Yes thx Turtle91 - you guys are GREAT or I would've given up a couple days ago . . . but I have renewed faith (and pardon my former rant).

I'm getting this view (which I should have included in the first place).

(Note: I am using SVG files on each page.)

Book View is greyed out in menu and as an icon.

fbrzvnrnd · 03-31-2016, 06:04 PM

You can have the book preview in XHTML file, not in SVG one.
Link the SVG in XHTML, and see the book preview.

For example, if the SVG file is called "Image0001.svg", insert a

Code:

<img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" />

in xhtml

Riqiv23 · 03-31-2016, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbrzvnrnd

You can have the book preview in XHTML file, not in SVG one.
Link the SVG in XHTML, and see the book preview.

For example, if the SVG file is called "Image0001.svg", insert a

Code:

<img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" />

in xhtml

I suppose your talking about the file in the left-hand column (Book Browser). I could right-click it and rename it.

The file is called:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg

Two questions:

1) The finished name after editing will be:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg <img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" />

or something else.

2) And is that where the insertion is done or is it done in the right-hand column w/the XHTML.

eschwartz · 04-01-2016, 01:24 AM

1) http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images.asp

2) In the XHTML of a page in the book, how else???

fbrzvnrnd · 04-01-2016, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riqiv23

I suppose your talking about the file in the left-hand column (Book Browser). I could right-click it and rename it.

The file is called:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg

Two questions:

1) The finished name after editing will be:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg <img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" />

or something else.

2) And is that where the insertion is done or is it done in the right-hand column w/the XHTML.

To be honest I suggest you to spend some hours on learning something about HTML and XML before continue the ebook. I can explain what you have to do here, but I fear you are going to meet another problem and another and another until you understand the place you are working in and the tools you could use. HTML and XML are quite simple, and the things related to ePub are a subset of HTML and XML, so - really - are things you can learn in some hours of code.

exaltedwombat · 04-01-2016, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riqiv23

This is what is disheartening. Even the most simple beginner task seems hidden someplace?

It reminds me when I tried to construct my own website using Dreamweaver . . . too hard. Then programs like Weebly came along and WIX came along and life was good!

That worries me. Dreamweaver is very similar to Sigil (or the EPUB Editor in Calibre) plus a very user-friendly interface that saves you from having to get your hands dirty in actual code. (But don't think you can create your EPUB in Dreamweaver. Website HTML is similar to EPUB code, but not identical.)

You are going to find Dreamweaver SO easy after you've conquered Sigil :-) And you can, once you "fall in" to how it works. It IS rocket science, to an extent. So you need to be the sort of person who enjoys rocket science. But it isn't HARD rocket science.

One more tip - forget Book View. You've got Code View where you do the real work. The Preview window where you get an (approximate) idea of what the result will be. But Book View should have been removed when Preview was introduced. It may look like the "easy" editing option. But it's not much use.

Toxaris · 04-01-2016, 10:11 AM

Check the wiki for a good tutorial. It is made by Pablo and will bring you up to speed quickly.

theducks · 04-01-2016, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riqiv23

I suppose your talking about the file in the left-hand column (Book Browser). I could right-click it and rename it.

The file is called:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg

Two questions:

1) The finished name after editing will be:
Modern Patterns & Warm-ups for Jazz_0000I.svg <img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" />

or something else.

2) And is that where the insertion is done or is it done in the right-hand column w/the XHTML.

Spaces in a filename should be avoided. Not all devices behave well.
RMSDK (ADE) will not successfully bookmark a file with spaces. It bookmarks, it just can't recover that point later

DaleDe · 04-01-2016, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Spaces in a filename should be avoided. Not all devices behave well.
RMSDK (ADE) will not successfully bookmark a file with spaces. It bookmarks, it just can't recover that point later

In addition special characters like "&" should be avoided in file names.

Riqiv23 · 04-01-2016, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

1) http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images.asp

2) In the XHTML of a page in the book, how else???

I think I explained "how else" . . . but obviously it won't have any effect being done in the Book Browser window.
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brzvnrnd & exalted wombat - thx, yes, this may not be my cup of tea . . . coding. Plus, it's more of a visual thing. I've got some old books on HTML, but this will require too much hand-holding to learn online and the books aren't specific to this task.

I'll look for a teacher I can visit in NYC or vice versa as I have to <b>see</b> what they are doing.

In the meantime

everyone, for your patience and graciousness!

If I get up and running and get past the newbie stage, I'll return with more specific questions.

DaleDe · 04-02-2016, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riqiv23

I think I explained "how else" . . . but obviously it won't have any effect being done in the Book Browser window.
=====
brzvnrnd & exalted wombat - thx, yes, this may not be my cup of tea . . . coding. Plus, it's more of a visual thing. I've got some old books on HTML, but this will require too much hand-holding to learn online and the books aren't specific to this task.

I'll look for a teacher I can visit in NYC or vice versa as I have to <b>see</b> what they are doing.

In the meantime

everyone, for your patience and graciousness!

If I get up and running and get past the newbie stage, I'll return with more specific questions.

If you don't want to learn all of the details I would suggest Atlantis Word Processor described in our wiki. It can read and edit word documents and can produce ePub and using KindleGen mobi documents. You need not learn any coding.

Dale

BetterRed · 04-02-2016, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaleDe

If you don't want to learn all of the details I would suggest Atlantis Word Processor described in our wiki. It can read and edit word documents and can produce ePub and using KindleGen mobi documents. You need not learn any coding.

Dale

Looks like the OP is using a Mac, and AWP is Windows only. So the OP would have to run it under Parallels or similar.

BR

03-31-2016, 05:04 PM	#77
Riqiv23 Member Posts: 12 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: NYC Device: iPhone 5c	Hmm, I've exported pages from Sibelius to SVG and put in to Sigil. The manual says: Switch to Book View by clicking the Book View button , selecting the menu item View→Book View or its keyboard shortcut: I see neither a Book View button and there's no "Book View" in the View menu. For the Calibre manual I see Export Files and a search for the word "import" delivers nothing. This is what is disheartening. Even the most simple beginner task seems hidden someplace? It reminds me when I tried to construct my own website using Dreamweaver . . . too hard. Then programs like Weebly came along and WIX came along and life was good! All help manuals should start with opening files and viewing them. Can someone help me w/the "Book View" for files in Sigil and loading SVG's into Calibre? p.i of my book in Sigil is attached :-) It probably shouldn't be in "images" folder. Is SVG the proper format or should I do the text in WORD and insert images? Thx, Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Riqiv23; 03-31-2016 at 05:16 PM.

03-31-2016, 06:04 PM	#80
fbrzvnrnd Fanatic Posts: 559 Karma: 400004 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: ONYX M96	You can have the book preview in XHTML file, not in SVG one. Link the SVG in XHTML, and see the book preview. For example, if the SVG file is called "Image0001.svg", insert a Code: <img alt="Image0001" src="../Images/Image0001.svg" /> in xhtml

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Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,395 Karma: 20212733 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 15/11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	Here is an image of the Book View Button: And if you click on "View" in the menu it is the second item down the list...under toolbars.... it has the same image of a book...and it has the title "Book View" I can't really help with the mac aspect...choices have consequences...but Sigil works fine.

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eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	1) http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images.asp 2) In the XHTML of a page in the book, how else???

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Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Check the wiki for a good tutorial. It is made by Pablo and will bring you up to speed quickly.