E-books More Than Just Digital Facsimiles

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Works if you pay for books. I avoid paying as much as I can - most books I read are KU books. The only KU books that get their DRM stripped are the ones that come from Kindle First since they are technically free purchases for me. Everything gets DRM stripped that didn't come as library or KU borrow otherwise.

Did you know many KU books are free to buy once in a while.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Works if you pay for books. I avoid paying as much as I can - most books I read are KU books. The only KU books that get their DRM stripped are the ones that come from Kindle First since they are technically free purchases for me. Everything gets DRM stripped that didn't come as library or KU borrow otherwise.

Works on free books too. Most of my Amazon books are freebies. I also get the one book per month from the Kindle lending library but don't strip the drm from those.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Did you know many KU books are free to buy once in a while.

Yes. For me it is too much worry to wait until something is free to purchase. If I want it now, I am going to get it now - if it is not free to buy it just gets borrowed. When I look at library books I will usually filter out any books that have a waiting list and see if I can borrow one right away.

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

Works on free books too. Most of my Amazon books are freebies. I also get the one book per month from the Kindle lending library but don't strip the drm from those.

The Kindle lending library overlaps with KU to some extend. So I usually don't look at that - the terms of KU suit me better. Won't strip DRM from KLL, just the Kindle First books that you get to keep and don't cost anything extra.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Are you kidding? What a mess. I didn't actually believe you, so I tried navigating in Kindle app. I promptly lost my place in the book . The only thing that works is the back button back to the book from full definiton in dictionary.

How very odd! The "back" button works just fine in the iOS Kindle App. Removing such a useful navigational tool from the Android App seems like a very strange decision.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by HarryT

How very odd! The "back" button works just fine in the iOS Kindle App. Removing such a useful navigational tool from the Android App seems like a very strange decision.

I just tried on my HD 8 and it works the same as the Android app. Or doesn't work.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I just tried on my HD 8 and it works the same as the Android app. Or doesn't work.

That's really strange. It works just fine on both K4PC and the iOS app. Goodness knows why they'd remove it from the Android/Fire versions of the app. It's a decision that seems to make no sense.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

If you are using the Kindle app on an Android tablet the link to another area of the book is useless. There is no way to get back to where you were when you clicked the link. When I use Moon+ and click on the same link I get an arrow to return back to where I was. The Kindle app used to be able to go back when you hit the back button but that was removed a long time ago. It was also very annoying if you had clicked a bunch of links. If you tried to use the back button to exit, you needed to hit back the number of times you used links before you could exit. This also lost your place in the book. I guess Amazon wasn't smart enough to figure out how to fix this and just got rid of it completely.

Originally Posted by HarryT

That's really strange. It works just fine on both K4PC and the iOS app. Goodness knows why they'd remove it from the Android/Fire versions of the app. It's a decision that seems to make no sense.

I think it's because of what I said above and they couldn't figure out how to fix it. Either way you lose your place in the book.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Yes it matters that the picture came from Amazon. Look all around you how many use a naked smart phone without cover shoved into the back pocket of jeans. The cover is optional. Get used to it - to some their electronics are not holy objects, they are just things. You still have to be careful with a cover.

Most cell phones are not as fragile as a Kindle. A Kindle screen is easier to break than most cell phones screens.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Most cell phones are not as fragile as a Kindle. A Kindle screen is easier to break than most cell phones screens.

Proof?

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Proof?

Oh, it's definitely true. The toughened glass screens of phones are much tougher than the fragile substrate of an eink screen. It takes almost nothing in the way of a bending force to fracture an eink screen's substrate. Phones are much tougher.

[Little.Egret]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

It can be easily fixed. Moon+ figured out how to do it - just display an arrow on the screen that takes you back when you tap it. FBReader lets you use the back button, and if you visited more than one link it displays a list that includes an option to exit. Mantano displays a return button after you tap in the center of the screen. Amazon just needs to want to do it and they obviously don't think it's necessary.

But does Moon+ remember the history and associate it with the book so if you leave by any means (including Home) even while reading a footnote , read another book, then go back to the first book, the back button still takes you back from notes to the text ?

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Oh, it's definitely true. The toughened glass screens of phones are much tougher than the fragile substrate of an eink screen. It takes almost nothing in the way of a bending force to fracture an eink screen's substrate. Phones are much tougher.

Thanks for the confirmation HarryT.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by Little.Egret

But does Moon+ remember the history and associate it with the book so if you leave by any means (including Home) even while reading a footnote , read another book, then go back to the first book, the back button still takes you back from notes to the text ?

FBReader does. Moon+ only displays an arrow on the screen that disappears if you even turn the page. But at least it has something. Here's a screenshot of FBReader with the book I used when I posted yesterday. It still has the links I went to.

[HarryT]

The Kindle's "back" button works on your reading history, not per book, so if you're reading book A, go to the home page and open book B, then select a hyperlink in book B to view a footnote, tapping the back button once will take you back to where you tapped the hyperlink from, and tapping back again will take you back to book A.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The Kindle's "back" button works on your reading history, not per book, so if you're reading book A, go to the home page and open book B, then select a hyperlink in book B to view a footnote, tapping the back button once will take you back to where you tapped the hyperlink from, and tapping back again will take you back to book A.

Is this an eink device or the ios app?