KFX Format - Page 25

Notjohn · 02-27-2016, 06:33 AM

I've had occasion to say this before, but it was in the Sigil forum, so I trust it's all right if I repeat myself:

You guys are amazing!

jhowell · 02-27-2016, 11:05 AM

I have had some success in converting a KDF file produced by the Kindle Previewer 3.0 beta into a KFX file that can be sideloaded onto a Kindle device or app. I have attached a sample converted from a public domain EPUB.

I have tried it on the Previewer (after changing the extension to .azw8), a Kindle Paperwhite II (5.7.2.1 firmware), Kindle for Android 4.21.0, and Kindle for iOS 4.17. As far as I can tell it functions properly on all of these. If anyone tries it and notices a problem please let me know.

dongle · 02-27-2016, 03:16 PM

I can report that your .kfx sideloads fine onto my current Basic Kindle (aka KT2) with fw 5.6.5.

Both hyphenation and ligatures display correctly.

JSWolf · 02-27-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dongle

I can report that your .kfx sideloads fine onto my current Basic Kindle (aka KT2) with fw 5.6.5.

Both hyphenation and ligatures display correctly.

How about kerning?

DuckieTigger · 02-27-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

How about kerning?

Yes, kerning too.

Up top old mobi file (not kerned), bottom kerned and ligatured Frankenstein on Voyage with 5.7.2.1 with Bookerly. (sorry just a picture done with my phone, not sure how to do real screenshots on Voyage)

JSWolf · 02-27-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Yes, kerning too.

Up top old mobi file (not kerned), bottom kerned and ligatured Frankenstein on Voyage with 5.7.2.1 with Bookerly. (sorry just a picture done with my phone, not sure how to do real screenshots on Voyage)

Thanks. That helps. The photo is plenty good enough to see what you are showing. It's actually one of the better screen shots with a phone that I've seen. Now if we can only find out the secret to making KFX.

DuckieTigger · 02-27-2016, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Thanks. That helps. The photo is plenty good enough to see what you are showing. It's actually one of the better screen shots with a phone that I've seen. Now if we can only find out the secret to making KFX.

Just like jhowell did. Run through previewer, convert with a script from kdf to kfx, sideload. If you can live with the limitations. Cover doesn't show up on homescreen, and the cover in book shows up as an image with location on the bottom. In a real kfx book the cover fills the screen and keeping the aspect ratio correct (e.g. white bars on left and right for skinny covers). Advantage? Only one file that needs to be sideloaded. I could live with that.

Edit: oops my bad. All kfx books that I have show the cover incorrect with page number on bottom (all the books were originally released before kfx). The one exception is Little Sister (February Kindle First book) that shows the cover in full screen without page number in bottom. Either the automatic conversion of old books to kfx is faulty, or Amazon changed something when processing new releases.

stalifero · 02-27-2016, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowell

I did some tests with my PW2 to experiment with the possibility of side-loading a book in kfx format. To do this I purchased and directly downloaded a free book to the kindle. I then switched into airplane mode and using USB I saved a copy of the book's main kfx file and the associated sdr directory. I deleted the book from the kindle and then made several attempts to side-load the book back to it, using a different file name each time.

I was able to successfully side-load. For this to work I needed the main kfx file, a directory of the same name with the suffix of '.sdr', and a subdirectory named 'assets' containing a small file named 'voucher' copied from the original download. This was sufficient to have the book show up as a personal document, but without a cover thumbnail, images, or a table of contents.

I then added the 'metadata.kfx' file that had originally been contained in the assets directory. That made the book functional again with a proper cover thumbnail, internal images and a working table of contents.

Finally I added an 'attachables' subdirectory within assets containing a file named 'CR!FYVV6BXDES0YQ4MCX4CG93WB1Z0B.kfx'. This didn't make any apparent difference in the working of the book in my quick test.

That last file contains a number of high quality jpeg-xr images from the book. I don't understand how the book worked without them. Perhaps there are lower quality images elsewhere as a fallback or perhaps there were cached images somewhere on the kindle.

I only have one kindle so I am unable to test whether this process would have allowed to book to be side-loaded to a different kindle. I suspect that it would not have worked due to DRM.

All of this gives me hope that if the kfx format is ever understood well enough, it may be possible to create and side-load non-Amazon books in kfx format and have them rendered with enhanced typesetting.

The articals about .kfx file and the .sdr folder associated with the books make sense now.

I have just spent 3 hours trying to Convert 2 books Remove (DeDRM) I bought from Amazon for my Kindle using Calibre lastist Version & Apprentice Alf’s plugin using Windows 10 wsith no luck, is this of the new format

Anybody have a work around

Stephen

DuckieTigger · 02-28-2016, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stalifero

The articals about .kfx file and the .sdr folder associated with the books make sense now.

I have just spent 3 hours trying to Convert 2 books Remove (DeDRM) I bought from Amazon for my Kindle using Calibre lastist Version & Apprentice Alf’s plugin using Windows 10 wsith no luck, is this of the new format

Anybody have a work around

Stephen

You are quoting a 6 month old post. A lot of things have changed since then. Well, it is still not possible to remove DRM from kfx books. But the download to pc, transfer via usb gives you a azw3 book that can be dedrmed just fine. That is the only workaround for now since Kindle4PC has been updated to kfx as well (far as I know). You won't have enhanced typesetting, but jhowell created a kfx file that can be sideloaded with enhanced typesetting. (See post #362 in this thread just a few post before yours).

AnemicOak · 02-28-2016, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

That is the only workaround for now since Kindle4PC has been updated to kfx as well (far as I know).

If true this is news to me.

DuckieTigger · 02-28-2016, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

If true this is news to me.

Dedrm still works with Kindle4PC? If it still works then there would be two ways to remove drm - Kindle4PC and download.

pdurrant · 02-28-2016, 02:50 AM

Detailed discussion of how to remove DRM is still not permitted at MobileRead

I suggest that any detailed questions should be asked at Apprentice Alf's blog or Apprentice Harper's github repository.

jhowell · 02-28-2016, 04:08 PM

Attached is the result of an attempt to do an automatic conversion of a KFX file to an EPUB with equivalent formatting. The original EPUB that was converted to KFX via KDF is here.

JSWolf · 02-28-2016, 04:42 PM

When are these scripts going to be made available?

jhowell · 02-28-2016, 06:16 PM

The files I posted are the result of an experiment to determine whether conversion to and from KFX is practical.

I am not releasing any other KFX-related software at this time.

02-28-2016, 06:16 PM	#375
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,091 Karma: 91592869 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	The files I posted are the result of an experiment to determine whether conversion to and from KFX is practical. I am not releasing any other KFX-related software at this time. Last edited by jhowell; 01-18-2017 at 09:52 AM.

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02-27-2016, 06:33 AM	#361
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,519 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	I've had occasion to say this before, but it was in the Sigil forum, so I trust it's all right if I repeat myself: You guys are amazing!

02-27-2016, 03:16 PM	#363
dongle Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2016 Device: Basic Kindle (KT2)	I can report that your .kfx sideloads fine onto my current Basic Kindle (aka KT2) with fw 5.6.5. Both hyphenation and ligatures display correctly.

02-28-2016, 02:50 AM	#372
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 74,022 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	Detailed discussion of how to remove DRM is still not permitted at MobileRead I suggest that any detailed questions should be asked at Apprentice Alf's blog or Apprentice Harper's github repository.

02-28-2016, 04:42 PM	#374
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	When are these scripts going to be made available?