Rules regarding reusing files from the Library? - Page 6

doubleshuffle · 02-17-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by klmmc13

So I'll need to make a separate post for each book I'm looking for, rather than a single post with several books? is that correct?

I'm not aware of such a rule, but there are some funny ones around here sometimes. Personally I'd find one post with a list of your titles more useful.

AnemicOak · 02-17-2016, 02:42 PM

The thread for making book requests is here...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10290

You can see posts about what folks are already working on here...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10203

eschwartz · 02-17-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by klmmc13

In general, how does everyone feel about working on NON-fiction works rather than fiction? (or should I open another thread for that question?)

I imagine that that depends on who is willing to volunteer to do it.

There is plenty of both, so I suspect your chances of attracting someone's interest are just as good either way.

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Originally Posted by klmmc13

I realize that debate is good for the soul, and great exercise for the mind, and blood-pressure if kept civil and good natured, but I didn't think my simply asking about using or redistributing some works for homeschoolers who might not have found them on their own was going to cause such a ruckus.

You might be surprised at the excuses we can find to argue about, well, anything.

for tolerating us.

ApK · 02-17-2016, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klmmc13

I realize that debate is good for the soul, and great exercise for the mind, and blood-pressure if kept civil and good natured, but I didn't think my simply asking about using or redistributing some works for homeschoolers who might not have found them on their own was going to cause such a ruckus.

You must be new.

If this thread doesn't hit triple digit page counts, it doesn't even rate as a ruckus around here.

AnemicOak · 02-17-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

You might be surprised at the excuses we can find to argue about, well, anything.

for tolerating us.

We don't argue about anything around here.

Cinisajoy · 02-17-2016, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I imagine that that depends on who is willing to volunteer to do it.

There is plenty of both, so I suspect your chances of attracting someone's interest are just as good either way.

You might be surprised at the excuses we can find to argue about, well, anything.

for tolerating us.

We discuss, we do not argue.

Please use the words correctly.

.
To the OP,
Thanks for the great question.

HarryT · 02-17-2016, 02:59 PM

I should add that you'll get a lot more help if you're willing to work on this yourself, of course. People are naturally more willing to help out someone who wades in themselves than someone who expects others to do all the work for them.

What proportion of books on your reading list are in the public domain?

eschwartz · 02-17-2016, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApK

You must be new.

If this thread doesn't hit triple digit page counts, it doesn't even rate as a ruckus around here.

2133 views. Does it rate?

doubleshuffle · 02-17-2016, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

2133 views. Does it rate?

Nahh, that's still polite little chat level.

ApK · 02-17-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Nahh, that's still polite little chat level.

Besides, the OP is still here and is the only one eating popcorn.

By the time it rates as a ruckus, strangers are eating popcorn, or drumming on horse carcasses, and the OP will have long since moved on.

klmmc13 · 02-17-2016, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I should add that you'll get a lot more help if you're willing to work on this yourself, of course. People are naturally more willing to help out someone who wades in themselves than someone who expects others to do all the work for them.

What proportion of books on your reading list are in the public domain?

I was working my way thru a Home-Ec book transcription when I had to drop that and start re-assembling my HS materials. ( My youngest has decided that he's tired of Pub Sch and wants to return to homeschool.)

Not knowing Word or HTML has been a handicap, but I'll eventually get it understood. I'd never encountered CSS before wanting to format txt & rtf files into homemade epubs. Then I remembered MR's library

and decided to give it a look.

ALL of the reading lists are PD. Most can be found on Gutenberg. Those few that are not, are available over at Baldwin Project. I've found most, if not all, in PDF, at GB and IA as well.

I have copies of 80-100% of the books, in PDF which is "inconvenient" to say the least when using Readers or small-screen netbooks. PDF's work 'alright' when at a computer station, but hard to read otherwise.

The curriculum we use is http://www.oldfashionededucation.com/
it's free, and mostly Public Domain.
I've added the Booklists from Accelerated Achievement & Robinson Curriculum to round it out. All three have benefits and drawbacks. None of them are complete in themselves, and each compliments the other.

I'm sorting thru what I have, and the source of each to determine EXACTLY what I DO need, and what will work as it is.

Kathy

dickloraine · 02-17-2016, 09:26 PM

Unfortunately it looks like the education is really old fashioned

Apart from math, there seems to be only very questionable natural science material and very little of that. Modern literature of course is absent. Most of this of course only gets important in the higher grades.

There are some projects for free text-books, but I remember at the moment only https://openstaxcollege.org/books and that is unfortunately for university level, but I guess there are other projects like that for school grades.

CWatkinsNash · 02-17-2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dickloraine

There are some projects for free text-books, but I remember at the moment only https://openstaxcollege.org/books and that is unfortunately for university level, but I guess there are other projects like that for school grades.

CK-12 has a lot of textbooks and resources, especially for science and math.

Cinisajoy · 02-17-2016, 10:01 PM

I don't know how old your son is, but you might check out MIT's open course work. For some extra fun things like science and languages.

klmmc13 · 02-17-2016, 11:59 PM

He's in 7th grade, but has learning difficulties / social issues. He can read and comprehend at HS - College level in some things, and down at 3rd grade at others.

As Dickloraine pointed out, it's REAL Old Fashioned Education. It's also why I've combined items from other systems as well. The 3 R's are what's important. Once you can master READING and COMPREHENSION, the World lays open before you.

Literature is no longer an offering in Grade Schools, so ANY "Great Books" I can put in front of him will be a bonus. The reading lists we all got as part of our High School years don't even exist anymore. I'll probably start with Twain.

He's got to go back over the Grammar & Composition books for grade-school for a quick refresher on the mechanics of writing; (I had to go track those down separately.)

retake the tests for the Mathematics books to determine new placement, and if he has "holes" in his math skills. His math books are a system developed in Eastern Europe and used in the UK at present. (Here they teach how to operate a calculator, not a pencil and paper to actually DO the math.)

History is no longer taught as such, but rather combined with "Ethnic & Cultural Studies." [those who forget history are doomed to repeat it] Put the materials in front of them as a textbook, and watch em go to sleep... Make it a biography and newpaper / magazine articles of the day, and they'll gobble it up and ask for more. Add just enough textbook to use as a guide.

Physical & Natural Science doesn't change much at the grade-school levels. And cooking teaches as much or more chemistry and math & science skills than any other offering at this grade-level.

I'll be going over the CK12 materials, as well as Kahn Academy, TED lectures, and some of the other High School options available, depending on what interests him this summer.
(He's learning programming thru MineCraft of all things....so is mama for that matter)

Mama gets in and studies right along with them, If mama can't do it, she'd better learn in a hurry, or change what needs to be taught. I've learned more getting into the HomeSchool materials we use than I learned in College for the Liberal Arts & Sciences degree I got in the 80's. Yes, I'm dating myself.

The Dumbing Down of America continues. Some of us are fighting it tooth-n-nail.

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02-17-2016, 02:42 PM	#77
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	The thread for making book requests is here... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10290 You can see posts about what folks are already working on here... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10203

02-17-2016, 02:59 PM	#82
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I should add that you'll get a lot more help if you're willing to work on this yourself, of course. People are naturally more willing to help out someone who wades in themselves than someone who expects others to do all the work for them. What proportion of books on your reading list are in the public domain?

02-17-2016, 09:26 PM	#87
dickloraine Guru Posts: 631 Karma: 7544528 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Berlin Device: PRS 350, Kobo Aura	Unfortunately it looks like the education is really old fashioned Apart from math, there seems to be only very questionable natural science material and very little of that. Modern literature of course is absent. Most of this of course only gets important in the higher grades. There are some projects for free text-books, but I remember at the moment only https://openstaxcollege.org/books and that is unfortunately for university level, but I guess there are other projects like that for school grades.

02-17-2016, 10:01 PM	#89
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	I don't know how old your son is, but you might check out MIT's open course work. For some extra fun things like science and languages.

02-17-2016, 11:59 PM	#90
klmmc13 formatting student Posts: 47 Karma: 38268 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: South Arkansas, US Device: several models of Kindle; Several Android tablets & 3 Android phones.	He's in 7th grade, but has learning difficulties / social issues. He can read and comprehend at HS - College level in some things, and down at 3rd grade at others. As Dickloraine pointed out, it's REAL Old Fashioned Education. It's also why I've combined items from other systems as well. The 3 R's are what's important. Once you can master READING and COMPREHENSION, the World lays open before you. Literature is no longer an offering in Grade Schools, so ANY "Great Books" I can put in front of him will be a bonus. The reading lists we all got as part of our High School years don't even exist anymore. I'll probably start with Twain. He's got to go back over the Grammar & Composition books for grade-school for a quick refresher on the mechanics of writing; (I had to go track those down separately.) retake the tests for the Mathematics books to determine new placement, and if he has "holes" in his math skills. His math books are a system developed in Eastern Europe and used in the UK at present. (Here they teach how to operate a calculator, not a pencil and paper to actually DO the math.) History is no longer taught as such, but rather combined with "Ethnic & Cultural Studies." [those who forget history are doomed to repeat it] Put the materials in front of them as a textbook, and watch em go to sleep... Make it a biography and newpaper / magazine articles of the day, and they'll gobble it up and ask for more. Add just enough textbook to use as a guide. Physical & Natural Science doesn't change much at the grade-school levels. And cooking teaches as much or more chemistry and math & science skills than any other offering at this grade-level. I'll be going over the CK12 materials, as well as Kahn Academy, TED lectures, and some of the other High School options available, depending on what interests him this summer. (He's learning programming thru MineCraft of all things....so is mama for that matter) Mama gets in and studies right along with them, If mama can't do it, she'd better learn in a hurry, or change what needs to be taught. I've learned more getting into the HomeSchool materials we use than I learned in College for the Liberal Arts & Sciences degree I got in the 80's. Yes, I'm dating myself. The Dumbing Down of America continues. Some of us are fighting it tooth-n-nail.