DRM Info

[markom]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

If you buy from Apple you will only be able to read on an Apple device because drm removal doesn't work on those ebooks. ....

Or he can simply take 30-40 screenshots (at desired zoom level) on any high-resolution apple tablet in a couple of minutes (for the next reading session) transfering those images thereafter into any ereader of his choice.

Repeating it again for the next reading session or taking more screenshots e.g. 100-200 for several reading sessions in advance.

At the end of the book he can delete all those images or create pdf/epub therefrom (for his own usage, law permitting) e.g. 50 MB or 5 MB ocr-ed pdf instead of 500 MB screenshots.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by markom

Or he can simply take 30-40 screenshots (at desired zoom level) on any high-resolution apple tablet in a couple of minutes (for the next reading session) transfering those images thereafter into any ereader of his choice.

Repeating it again for the next reading session or taking more screenshots e.g. 100-200 for several reading sessions in advance.

At the end of the book he can delete all those images or create pdf/epub therefrom (for his own usage, law permitting) e.g. 50 MB or 5 MB ocr-ed pdf instead of 500 MB screenshots.

A lot of trouble to go to to give money to somebody who doesn't want you using anything buut their toys. A lot easier to give the money who lets you read the same books almost everywhere, both Apple and non-Apple.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by markom

Or he can simply take 30-40 screenshots (at desired zoom level) on any high-resolution apple tablet in a couple of minutes (for the next reading session) transfering those images thereafter into any ereader of his choice.

Repeating it again for the next reading session or taking more screenshots e.g. 100-200 for several reading sessions in advance.

At the end of the book he can delete all those images or create pdf/epub therefrom (for his own usage, law permitting) e.g. 50 MB or 5 MB ocr-ed pdf instead of 500 MB screenshots.

To me all this is a huge reason NOT to buy from Apple. Why would I want to do this if I didn't have to? Just purchase from one of the sellers that have apps you can use anywhere.

[4691mls]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

To me all this is a huge reason NOT to buy from Apple. Why would I want to do this if I didn't have to? Just purchase from one of the sellers that have apps you can use anywhere.

yes, that sounds like a lot of trouble!
Since the OP has a Kobo reader, it would be much simpler just to buy books from Kobo or another store that sells epubs, such as Google Play.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Oh I see your question now.
DRM is what some sellers and libraries put on their books to prevent stealing.
It only affects where a reader can read a book.
ALL library ebooks have it.
Now if you want to "own" the book, you should buy it. If you just want to read it, borrow it from a library b for a limited time.

Probably depends on your location. In the U.S., not "ALL"; some are just Epub, or "Open EPub".

For example: "The Shift Omnibus", http://digitalbooks.brooklynpublicli...9-DE0081AA1F12

Scroll down and click on the "Title Information"

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

A lot of trouble to go to to give money to somebody who doesn't want you using anything buut their toys. A lot easier to give the money who lets you read the same books almost everywhere, both Apple and non-Apple.

One would point out that Amazon does the same, you can only read it on their toys unless you remove the DRM (and yes, you can remove DRM from ebooks purchased from Apple). Some books do not have DRM, on Amazon and on Apple. Other ebook sales use a common DRM method which allows you to read on an ebook reader that supports that particular DRM method. You really shouldn't pretend that Apple is different simply because you don't like them.

[doubleshuffle]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

One would point out that Amazon does the same, you can only read it on their toys unless you remove the DRM (and yes, you can remove DRM from ebooks purchased from Apple). Some books do not have DRM, on Amazon and on Apple. Other ebook sales use a common DRM method which allows you to read on an ebook reader that supports that particular DRM method. You really shouldn't pretend that Apple is different simply because you don't like them.

The difference with Apple is that you can't remove their DRM.

ETA: First time around, I missed the sentence where you said you can. That's news to just about everybody, I guess. Link?

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

If you buy from Apple you will only be able to read on an Apple device because drm removal doesn't work on those ebooks. If you buy epub books from anywhere that requires ADE, only install ADE 2.x. Any higher version is capable of using hardened drm even if it's not currently used. If you buy from Amazon make sure it is able to be read on your device of choice. Some Amazon ebooks can't be downloaded to K4PC, but Amazon will always show what devices it can be downloaded to if an ebook has that restriction.

This is actually not true. You can remove DRM from iTunes movies and ebooks. You just need to use the correct software. A simple google search will tell you which software to purchase.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

The difference with Apple is that you can't remove their DRM.

You really shouldn't believe everything you read. Yes, you can remove Apples DRM. I do it all the time. You simply have to purchase the correct software.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

The difference with Apple is that you can't remove their DRM.

ETA: First time around, I missed the sentence where you said you can. That's news to just about everybody, I guess. Link?

Not really news to everyone.

Google "apple ebook drm removal" . There are several links that describe how it's done and point you to the software to purchase. The company is legit. I've been using their iTunes movie DRM removal software for a number of years. I can't say that I've bought a lot of ebooks from Apple. I tend to buy more from Amazon, but it's always nice to have options. I won't go into more details unless the moderator says I can name the company.

[doubleshuffle]

Thanks. I really wasn't aware of that. I only knew about Requiem, which according to all sources stopped working quite a while back. Never put much effort into finding iBooks DRM removal, since I don't buy from them.

I still see a difference though between DRM that is removable with free open source software, and one you have to buy proprietary software for.

[pwalker8]

Originally Posted by doubleshuffle

Thanks. I really wasn't aware of that. I only knew about Requiem, which according to all sources stopped working quite a while back. Never put much effort into finding iBooks DRM removal, since I don't buy from them.

I still see a difference though between DRM that is removable with free open source software, and one you have to buy proprietary software for.

Perhaps. The flip side is that when someone doesn't get paid, they have a lot less motivation to continue supporting the product. Abandon ware can be quite an issue. So far, the company in question has done a good job of updating their product for changes in FairPlay. As you mentioned, Requiem stopped working a while back. They just didn't have the motivation to keep up with the changes in iTunes. To a great extent, we have been spoiled by Apprentice Alf and company. They are the exception rather than the rule.

There is a reason that the first thing that I do when I buy an ebook or movie is to remove the DRM.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by Respigi

I want to thank everyone for replying altho` some of the contributions e.g. from susan cassidy and FizzyWater and statements like 13 out of 14 people know about DRM raises questions.
I (ignorant as I may be) knew nothing about DRMs . My local library was happy to make thousands of free ebooks available to me. There was also many free sites doing this. Now I find it is whispered about and not paying for all your boooks and their DRMs is like some antisocial misbehavior.
But I`m learning and love my Kobo

If you are looking for free books, take a look at these sites:

http://www.gutenberg.org/
http://www.feedbooks.com/ (very good book layout)

Also, Amazon and Kobo, and possibly others, have a lot of free books. Those are the ones in public domain (no copyright anymore), or the ones given away by the author as advertisements for other books, often in a series.

Most copyrighted books have DRM; either Amazon's or Adobe's (most EPUB stores use this). There are DRM removal tools available that can be installed in the e-book library program called Calibre. If you do, DRM will be removed as soon as you import it into Calibre (after buying the book using the normal buying procedure; this does not work for protected books you may... 'find'... on the internet).

Of course there are also sellers that don't use DRM, even for copyrighted books. Baen and Tor Books are two of them.

The 'whispering' is caused because of the fact that in many countries DRM removal is illegal. MobileRead does not want to get into trouble and face the possibility to be sued and shut down due to providing direct instructions on how to remove DRM.

Thus, you will only find links to and references to someone known 'Apprentice Alf', and since some time, 'Apprentice Harper'. They are the maintainers of the DRM removal tools that plug into Calibre. (They don't come with Calibre by default, because Calibre needs to be available and downloadable in the countries where DRM removal is illegal.)

Here is everything we are allowed to tell you:
Kindle for PC
Adobe Digital Editions version 1.7.x or 2.x (NOT 3.x or 4.x)
Calibre
Apprentice Alf / "The Tools"
Apple DRM has not been cracked; avoid iBooks (edit: according to pwalker8, it's possible now. If it is, I don't know about it. Still, I wouldn't buy anything from Apple anyways.)

Install them and buy books. On importing them into Calibre, the DRM will be removed. Just HOW to install and configure the DRM-part is up to you to figure out. As explained above, we're not allowed to tell you that at this site. Google it

Good luck

[DiapDealer]

I have to question the accuracy of describing a company who sells DRM removal software as being "legit." Clearly there's a lot of grey area in the legality of DRM removal itself, but the production/distribution of software that achieves it is straddling the line (if not over it) in many jurisdictions. Charging money for such a product puts them squarely on the wrong side of the law in most jurisdictions.

[Purple Lady]

Originally Posted by pwalker8

Not really news to everyone.

Google "apple ebook drm removal" . There are several links that describe how it's done and point you to the software to purchase. The company is legit. I've been using their iTunes movie DRM removal software for a number of years. I can't say that I've bought a lot of ebooks from Apple. I tend to buy more from Amazon, but it's always nice to have options. I won't go into more details unless the moderator says I can name the company.

Have you removed the drm from the books you did buy from Apple? Like most others here, I thought you couldn't anymore unless you used an old version of iTunes. Can you remove the drm from ebooks if you are using Apple's latest iTunes software?