Cool Reader, chess, checkers, sokoban, notepad and other programs - Page 11

eschwartz · 01-04-2016, 03:04 AM

It is certainly true that Coolreader is released under the GPL2: http://sourceforge.net/p/crengine/cr...i/master/tree/
And as per the standard GPL terms, if you make your personal modifications of a GPL project available publicly, you must, well, not contribute back your changes, but certainly make them publicly available for anyone, including the original project, to download and/or use, if they so desire. As a byproduct of having to license your modifications under a GPL2-compatible license, which includes distributing source code together with binary builds.

And... I don't believe I see any links to the source code used by this project. Which I will assume until given reason to think otherwise, is merely a technical oversight.

sergeyvl12 · 01-04-2016, 04:35 AM

Hi!

I've published CR3 sources here:

CoolReader user manual

knc1 · 01-04-2016, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timofonic

It appears twice:

*I n the Sourceforge project description.
*The README.TXT file.

I reported it in his forum. It's moderated, so he or one of the moderators approved it manually. I also sent him an email and wrote it in his uservoice account related to coolreader.

I don't notify GPL violations because of nothing, I researched more than enough and asked skilled people about it. Now I'm waiting reply

Ah, you answered the wrong question -
Those links are about how the sources are GPLv2, which is not the question I asked.

I asked what section and sub-section of GPLv2 you are reading that the changes have to be 'contributed back'.

The changes have to be also subject to GPLv2 terms, but the GPLv2 license says nothing about 'contributed back'.
You have in mind a different license (some OpenSource licenses do have terms that include 'contribute back' but not the GPLv2).

timofonic · 01-05-2016, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

Ah, you answered the wrong question -
Those links are about how the sources are GPLv2, which is not the question I asked.

I asked what section and sub-section of GPLv2 you are reading that the changes have to be 'contributed back'.

The changes have to be also subject to GPLv2 terms, but the GPLv2 license says nothing about 'contributed back'.
You have in mind a different license (some OpenSource licenses do have terms that include 'contribute back' but not the GPLv2).

English isn't my first language and I didn't explain it wrong. I'm sorry.

But I think that detail is superfluous, no need to continue about licensing debates. Anyway, you helped me to identify another mistake when writing English

knc1 · 01-06-2016, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timofonic

English isn't my first language and I didn't explain it wrong.
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The GPLv2 has been translated into many languages, try reading it in your native language.
At least before you accuse someone of breaking it.

eschwartz · 01-06-2016, 08:56 AM

I think what timofonic means is he did a bad job of explaining here, what he thought was wrong.

To a non-native English speaker, "contributing back" might be understood as the best way to express "releasing the modified source back into the world".

"I didn't explain it wrong. I'm sorry." seems to be mixed up as well, if he's "sorry" then he clearly mixed up "I didn't explain it right" and "I explained it wrong".

Give the guy a break.

knc1 · 01-06-2016, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

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Give the guy a break.

I thought that I was, reading a legal document in your native language seemed to be good advice.

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I guess I should take a break, I have been making too many errors recently.

sergeyvl12 · 04-05-2016, 05:04 AM

Hi!

Version 2016.03 is released! A lot of improvements in CR, chess, OPDS

Glorfindel · 04-05-2016, 06:52 PM

Yay!!

knc1 · 04-05-2016, 07:12 PM

Isn't (0.5gb) and (500mb) the same values in your signature?
Or have they changed the decimal number system on me again?

Glorfindel · 04-06-2016, 10:11 AM

Technically, 0.5 GB is 512, not 500

Also I haven't done anything with my Sig for a while

ThomasMcKean · 04-26-2016, 03:52 PM

How are these programs installed? I am scratching my head? I have KUAL installed but there is no extension for Coolreader? I have a PW3. Does Coolreader not work on that? I think someone here told me it doesn't.

If it does, how do I install?

sergeyvl12 · 04-27-2016, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasMcKean

How are these programs installed? I am scratching my head? I have KUAL installed but there is no extension for Coolreader? I have a PW3. Does Coolreader not work on that? I think someone here told me it doesn't.

If it does, how do I install?

The link to installation manual is in the first post of this thread.

ofmr · 07-06-2016, 04:25 AM

Great that I can use Coolreader on the Kinde Voyage. Is it possible to use the KV page switching "keys" to go to next page? Within Coolreader the "keys" seem to be inactive, they also don't show the feedback vibration.

geekmaster · 07-06-2016, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glorfindel

Technically, 0.5 GB is 512, not 500

Also I haven't done anything with my Sig for a while

Since the GiB (binary gigabytes) standard was adopted to eliminate this confusion, 0.5 GiB is 512, but 0.5 GB is 500. Though before the new standards, they were both GB, which caused confusion. WikiPedia explains it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte

The hard drive manufacturers prevailed and the systems and network programming folks had to change their unit designators to stay current.

01-04-2016, 04:35 AM	#152
sergeyvl12 ebook fan Posts: 735 Karma: 2528718 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: PocketBook 301+, Kindle 3 Wi-Fi, Onyx Boox A62, Kindle Touch	CoolReader GPL sources Hi! I've published CR3 sources here: CoolReader user manual

04-05-2016, 05:04 AM	#158
sergeyvl12 ebook fan Posts: 735 Karma: 2528718 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: PocketBook 301+, Kindle 3 Wi-Fi, Onyx Boox A62, Kindle Touch	2016.03 Hi! Version 2016.03 is released! A lot of improvements in CR, chess, OPDS

04-26-2016, 03:52 PM	#162
ThomasMcKean Disabilities Advocate Posts: 255 Karma: 162 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains Device: Kindle PW3	How are these programs installed? I am scratching my head? I have KUAL installed but there is no extension for Coolreader? I have a PW3. Does Coolreader not work on that? I think someone here told me it doesn't. If it does, how do I install? Last edited by ThomasMcKean; 04-26-2016 at 03:58 PM.

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01-04-2016, 03:04 AM	#151
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It is certainly true that Coolreader is released under the GPL2: http://sourceforge.net/p/crengine/cr...i/master/tree/ And as per the standard GPL terms, if you make your personal modifications of a GPL project available publicly, you must, well, not contribute back your changes, but certainly make them publicly available for anyone, including the original project, to download and/or use, if they so desire. As a byproduct of having to license your modifications under a GPL2-compatible license, which includes distributing source code together with binary builds. And... I don't believe I see any links to the source code used by this project. Which I will assume until given reason to think otherwise, is merely a technical oversight.

01-06-2016, 08:56 AM	#156
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I think what timofonic means is he did a bad job of explaining here, what he thought was wrong. To a non-native English speaker, "contributing back" might be understood as the best way to express "releasing the modified source back into the world". "I didn't explain it wrong. I'm sorry." seems to be mixed up as well, if he's "sorry" then he clearly mixed up "I didn't explain it right" and "I explained it wrong". Give the guy a break.

04-05-2016, 06:52 PM	#159
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Yay!!

04-05-2016, 07:12 PM	#160
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Isn't (0.5gb) and (500mb) the same values in your signature? Or have they changed the decimal number system on me again?

04-06-2016, 10:11 AM	#161
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Technically, 0.5 GB is 512, not 500 Also I haven't done anything with my Sig for a while

07-06-2016, 04:25 AM	#164
ofmr Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2016 Device: Kindle Voyage	Great that I can use Coolreader on the Kinde Voyage. Is it possible to use the KV page switching "keys" to go to next page? Within Coolreader the "keys" seem to be inactive, they also don't show the feedback vibration.