E-ink is dying(?)

varlog · 12-15-2015, 06:42 PM

I spend a lot of time in trains. I see people with smartphones, I see people with dead trees. Once in a while I see tablet or notebook.
People with dedicated e-readers are almost not present there. And I don't see much new news about development in in this area - industry is giving up?
I like to be able to read in full sun and I don't like my reading device to be brighter then environment - but apparently I'm minority. Am I?

cvkemp · 12-15-2015, 06:52 PM

I would not read on anything but e-ink. I can not read on a tablet or smartphone very long but I can read for hours and hours with my voyage. And Amazon seems to be doing ok with saleing and coming out with new models.

Barbara1955 · 12-15-2015, 07:11 PM

I don't use my e-ink reader when I go to Drs Appt. I use my Phone. Less to carry. I sure that's what others are doing. Doesn't mean at home they don't have a e-ink reader

Cinisajoy · 12-15-2015, 07:19 PM

I don't know where you are but in most places e-ink readers are fairly expensive.
They are not necessarily more expensive than a smart phone but they generally are used for only one thing as opposed to a smartphone that can do many.
Let's see, I can get a smart phone for $50. A dedicated ereader starts at about $79.

Not only that, there is the weight factor. Now I will give you that 6 ounces is not that heavy but once you start adding it up a purse or bag can get heavy in a hurry. Example my purse weighs less than 3 pounds. My tablet with case adds about a pound. Put in my small smartphone and you get another almost half a pound. If I throw in the ereader, that adds another 6 oz so now we are up to 5 lbs.
Short distances would not be bad but if I had to go far, it would get heavy in a hurry. And note my purse is light compared to most women. I don't wear makeup.

cvkemp · 12-15-2015, 07:25 PM

That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

JSWolf · 12-15-2015, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvkemp

That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

I suggest you don't put your Voyage in your pocket as you give it a much higher risk of being damaged.

cvkemp · 12-15-2015, 07:35 PM

Not a problem this time of your I am always wearing sweaters, or a workout jacket.

Cinisajoy · 12-15-2015, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvkemp

That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

I know what you mean about reading and eyes.
But keep in mind, I also know way too many people that it would be economic reasons.
Our area went from 475 rigs last year to 175 this year.

But then I am cheap and got both my ereaders used for $15.

cvkemp · 12-15-2015, 07:44 PM

Not a problem with find it cheap.

Hack I retired so I no long need a new windows computer every year to keep working. I have a couple old laptops hanging around once they bit the dust that is it. My retirement present to me was the IPad Air 2 I love it and it is all I really need to harass everyone on here and facebook.

Cinisajoy · 12-15-2015, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvkemp

Not a problem with find it cheap.

Hack I retired so I no long need a new windows computer every year to keep working. I have a couple old laptops hanging around once they bit the dust that is it. My retirement present to me was the IPad Air 2 I love it and it is all I really need to harass everyone on here and facebook.

The only place I have facebook is my laptop, which rarely gets turned on and my old Big Lots special tablet.
Same name here as there.

Barbara1955 · 12-15-2015, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvkemp

That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

With the correct setting I can read ALL day on my Amazon Phone. Problem is Battery life sucks 8 hours

I wouldn't eve buy a e-ink reader IF LED tablets & Phones didn't die so quickly.

eschwartz · 12-15-2015, 07:55 PM

Ooooh, clickbait title! Yay!

E-Ink is not dying. You just are seeing lots of people who aren't the target audience.
You aren't all of a sudden in the minority, you always were.

cvkemp · 12-15-2015, 07:59 PM

I have shown my voyage to a lot of my retired friends and about half of the ones that read very much have gotten an e-ink reader of some kind or other. Most of them have either gotten the PW2-3 and a few the voyage.

FizzyWater · 12-15-2015, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvkemp

That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

Doesn't the Voyage have a glass screen, rather than the plastic substrate the many of the others do? I've wondered if there would be an increase in the glare from overhead lights with a glass screen.

JSWolf · 12-15-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FizzyWater

Doesn't the Voyage have a glass screen, rather than the plastic substrate the many of the others do? I've wondered if there would be an increase in the glare from overhead lights with a glass screen.

They all use a glass substrate.

12-15-2015, 06:42 PM	#1
varlog actually it is /var/log Posts: 341 Karma: 2994236 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: usually Europa Device: prs t1	E-ink is dying(?) I spend a lot of time in trains. I see people with smartphones, I see people with dead trees. Once in a while I see tablet or notebook. People with dedicated e-readers are almost not present there. And I don't see much new news about development in in this area - industry is giving up? I like to be able to read in full sun and I don't like my reading device to be brighter then environment - but apparently I'm minority. Am I?

12-15-2015, 07:44 PM	#9
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	Not a problem with find it cheap. Hack I retired so I no long need a new windows computer every year to keep working. I have a couple old laptops hanging around once they bit the dust that is it. My retirement present to me was the IPad Air 2 I love it and it is all I really need to harass everyone on here and facebook. Last edited by cvkemp; 12-15-2015 at 07:47 PM.

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12-15-2015, 06:52 PM	#2
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I would not read on anything but e-ink. I can not read on a tablet or smartphone very long but I can read for hours and hours with my voyage. And Amazon seems to be doing ok with saleing and coming out with new models.

12-15-2015, 07:11 PM	#3
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	I don't use my e-ink reader when I go to Drs Appt. I use my Phone. Less to carry. I sure that's what others are doing. Doesn't mean at home they don't have a e-ink reader

12-15-2015, 07:19 PM	#4
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	I don't know where you are but in most places e-ink readers are fairly expensive. They are not necessarily more expensive than a smart phone but they generally are used for only one thing as opposed to a smartphone that can do many. Let's see, I can get a smart phone for $50. A dedicated ereader starts at about $79. Not only that, there is the weight factor. Now I will give you that 6 ounces is not that heavy but once you start adding it up a purse or bag can get heavy in a hurry. Example my purse weighs less than 3 pounds. My tablet with case adds about a pound. Put in my small smartphone and you get another almost half a pound. If I throw in the ereader, that adds another 6 oz so now we are up to 5 lbs. Short distances would not be bad but if I had to go far, it would get heavy in a hurry. And note my purse is light compared to most women. I don't wear makeup.

12-15-2015, 07:25 PM	#5
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	That may be true by do you read for hours on end on your smartphone. I bet not. I love reading and I will only read on my smartphone if it is the only thing I have with me, most times that does not happen my voyage fits in my pocket with out an issue. My smartphone battery may last 5 or 6 hours of continuous use my voyage will last days. Also my eyes hurt really bad after a few minutes of reading on it. And I can read all day with out issues with e-ink. I do not know about you but what I have left of my eyes are worth the added expense.

12-15-2015, 07:35 PM	#7
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	Not a problem this time of your I am always wearing sweaters, or a workout jacket.

12-15-2015, 07:55 PM	#12
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Ooooh, clickbait title! Yay! E-Ink is not dying. You just are seeing lots of people who aren't the target audience. You aren't all of a sudden in the minority, you always were.

12-15-2015, 07:59 PM	#13
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,431 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I have shown my voyage to a lot of my retired friends and about half of the ones that read very much have gotten an e-ink reader of some kind or other. Most of them have either gotten the PW2-3 and a few the voyage.