GOODEREADER announces crowd-funded 'ULTIMATE 6" EINK READER'! - Page 17

HarryT · 11-30-2015, 03:23 AM

They'd presumably need to go down the road that other "independents" like Bookeen have done and license ADE. That's why it's much easier for such companies to produce generic Android devices, despite their limitations as reading devices.

DuckieTigger · 11-30-2015, 04:16 AM

You are not really independent if all you do is some ADE. It will just be another generic epub reader.

HarryT · 11-30-2015, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

You are not really independent if all you do is some ADE. It will just be another generic epub reader.

I was using the word "independent" as meaning "not linked to a particular bookstore". I'd class readers sold by companies like Bookeen, Pocketbook, Onyx, etc, as "independent", as opposed to Amazon, Kobo and B&N, who sell readers primarily as a vehicle through which to sell content from their respective bookstores.

The last I heard, Adobe were charging about US$70,000 for an ADE licence, which is a big obstacle for a small company, which probably goes at least some way to explain the recent proliferation of Android eInk devices.

ProDigit · 12-01-2015, 02:14 AM

They don't really have a choice,
Either android, or Win CE (which no longer is sold).

Windows 10 for phones, might be a better option

HarryT · 12-01-2015, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProDigit

They don't really have a choice,
Either android, or Win CE (which no longer is sold).

Or produce an ADE device running Linux, as I said above.

Canuck_in_Japan · 12-09-2015, 09:08 AM

13 days left. Looks like it's going to come down to the wire.

Spoiler:

HarryT · 12-16-2015, 04:24 PM

With 5 days left they've raced ahead to $7,126. What could possibly stop them from getting the remaining $212,874?

doubleshuffle · 12-16-2015, 04:49 PM

It's so sad I am almost ashamed to find it amusing. Almost.

JSWolf · 12-16-2015, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

With 5 days left they've raced ahead to $7,126. What could possibly stop them from getting the remaining $212,874?

People who know there is nothing ultimate about this Reader except that it's an Ultimate Failure.

alanHd · 12-16-2015, 05:28 PM

Still strange to me that no demo unit has been shown even tho they have supposedly footed the bill for the demo run. I wonder if they will be asking for their money back.

Nate the great · 12-20-2015, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I was using the word "independent" as meaning "not linked to a particular bookstore". I'd class readers sold by companies like Bookeen, Pocketbook, Onyx, etc, as "independent", as opposed to Amazon, Kobo and B&N, who sell readers primarily as a vehicle through which to sell content from their respective bookstores.

The last I heard, Adobe were charging about US$70,000 for an ADE licence, which is a big obstacle for a small company, which probably goes at least some way to explain the recent proliferation of Android eInk devices.

Except those Android E-ink devices are ADE licensed (or at least the ones I saw were).

HarryT · 12-20-2015, 01:17 PM

Thanks, Nate. I hadn't noticed that.

Canuck_in_Japan · 12-21-2015, 08:29 AM

Apparently they should be getting a demo unit by the end of the year and the manufacturer is "ramping up production on the units".
So I guess they're going ahead and refunds are not forthcoming?

doubleshuffle · 12-21-2015, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

So I guess they're going ahead and refunds are not forthcoming?

Surprise, surprise.

Barty · 12-21-2015, 12:39 PM

If you think about it, e ink readers are kind of pathetic. Look at the $10 android phone. It packs into a much smaller space a quad core 1.2Ghz cpu, sd slot, microphone, speaker, blue tooth, cell radio, Wi-Fi, camera (crappy camera, but camera nevertheless). This $200 reader does not even have sound. Ok I guess the e-ink screen and front light cost more than the cheap lcd, but really, don't the cheap phones show all the other components cost very little? And the fact that you have a larger form factor to work with makes design and assembly easier.

Eink readers are the smart phones of Soviet era Russian consumer electronics.

12-09-2015, 09:08 AM	#246
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,476 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	13 days left. Looks like it's going to come down to the wire. Spoiler: No, it isn't.

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11-30-2015, 03:23 AM	#241
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	They'd presumably need to go down the road that other "independents" like Bookeen have done and license ADE. That's why it's much easier for such companies to produce generic Android devices, despite their limitations as reading devices.

11-30-2015, 04:16 AM	#242
DuckieTigger Wizard Posts: 4,763 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT	You are not really independent if all you do is some ADE. It will just be another generic epub reader.

12-01-2015, 02:14 AM	#244
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	They don't really have a choice, Either android, or Win CE (which no longer is sold). Windows 10 for phones, might be a better option

12-16-2015, 04:24 PM	#247
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	With 5 days left they've raced ahead to $7,126. What could possibly stop them from getting the remaining $212,874?

12-16-2015, 04:49 PM	#248
doubleshuffle Unicycle Daredevil Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3	It's so sad I am almost ashamed to find it amusing. Almost.

12-16-2015, 05:28 PM	#250
alanHd Addict Posts: 374 Karma: 1408579 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, Ipod Touch, Ipad Air	Still strange to me that no demo unit has been shown even tho they have supposedly footed the bill for the demo run. I wonder if they will be asking for their money back.

12-20-2015, 01:17 PM	#252
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks, Nate. I hadn't noticed that.

12-21-2015, 08:29 AM	#253
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,476 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	Apparently they should be getting a demo unit by the end of the year and the manufacturer is "ramping up production on the units". So I guess they're going ahead and refunds are not forthcoming?

12-21-2015, 12:39 PM	#255
Barty doofus Posts: 2,551 Karma: 13089041 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kindle Voyage	If you think about it, e ink readers are kind of pathetic. Look at the $10 android phone. It packs into a much smaller space a quad core 1.2Ghz cpu, sd slot, microphone, speaker, blue tooth, cell radio, Wi-Fi, camera (crappy camera, but camera nevertheless). This $200 reader does not even have sound. Ok I guess the e-ink screen and front light cost more than the cheap lcd, but really, don't the cheap phones show all the other components cost very little? And the fact that you have a larger form factor to work with makes design and assembly easier. Eink readers are the smart phones of Soviet era Russian consumer electronics.