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Old 11-01-2015, 05:11 PM   #196
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And to make things even better, Michael still insists Amazon will launch another Voyage next month (there's a new post to that effect).
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And to make things even better, Michael still insists Amazon will launch another Voyage next month (there's a new post to that effect).
It would make some sense. It's been just over a year, and xmas is coming up.
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It would make some sense. It's been just over a year, and xmas is coming up.
I still doubt it. As my counterpart at The eBook Reader ably explains, the Voyage isn't selling very well, which is why I don't expect Amazon to invest in a new model.
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I still doubt it. As my counterpart at The eBook Reader ably explains, the Voyage isn't selling very well, which is why I don't expect Amazon to invest in a new model.
Plus they only released the PW3 in summer.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:32 PM   #200
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Plus they only released the PW3 in summer.
That was Amazon's standard annual ereader launch event, yes, and wouldn't it have made more sense to announce the Voyage when the press were all together in San Francisco in September?
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Here is an author fundraiser.
https://www.generosity.com/fundraise...ng-him-home--6
IIRC he also started a Kickstarter fund.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:36 PM   #202
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I still doubt it. As my counterpart at The eBook Reader ably explains, the Voyage isn't selling very well, which is why I don't expect Amazon to invest in a new model.
That article suggests that Voyage sales total only about 30% of PW3 sales. A new Voyage before xmas is looking less and less likely after all.
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I still doubt it. As my counterpart at The eBook Reader ably explains, the Voyage isn't selling very well, which is why I don't expect Amazon to invest in a new model.
I think Amazon is the reason for the lackluster sales of the Voyage. The PW3 has the same screen and costs noticeably less. If Amazon had not released the PW3, the Voyage would have sold better. How much better I cannot say.

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I think Amazon is the reason for the lackluster sales of the Voyage. The PW3 has the same screen and costs noticeably less. If Amazon had not released the PW3, the Voyage would have sold better. How much better I cannot say.
I don't know. The Voyage was out for about six months before the PW3 was released. So in that time, it was competing with the lower-spec PW2, and even then consumers didn't appear to see the extra Voyage features justified the extra cost.
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And to make things even better, Michael still insists Amazon will launch another Voyage next month (there's a new post to that effect).
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I still doubt it. As my counterpart at The eBook Reader ably explains, the Voyage isn't selling very well, which is why I don't expect Amazon to invest in a new model.
Well, they might.

Good e-reader "borrowed" the scoop from this MR thread
We have the word of Amazon CS that there will be a new Voyage in November. For what that's worth.
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:31 PM   #206
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If the Voyage has actually sold 1/3 as much as the new Paperwhite then I don't think that's so bad since it's considerably more expensive with just about the same screen.

I read a few different forums and when readers mention their device the Voyage is mentioned quite a lot. It's not a rare thing at all.

I've been a Paperwhite reader since they first came out and I thought it was pretty much perfect till I got the Voyage. I don't use the extra features and I can't tell much difference in the screens while reading but I really like the flat surface and the smaller size and the lighter weight. While the Voyage might only weigh an ounce less than the Paperwhite, the Voyage and it's case, weighs less than half as much as the Paperwhite and it's case, even though the cases for both are pretty much the same. The extra size of the Paperwhite makes it's case a lot heavier. So it's a significant weight reduction.

I'm really not that sure how well the number of reviews correlates with the number of sales, either. It might be that we snobbish Voyage readers think of ourselves as above all that and don't bother writing reviews.

More realistically though, the Paperwhite is so good that a lot of people aren't motivated to get something else. I had decided not to get one and then one day I did on a whim. I felt kind of silly afterward, until it got here.

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Well, they might.

Good e-reader "borrowed" the scoop from this MR thread
We have the word of Amazon CS that there will be a new Voyage in November. For what that's worth.
But I thought his earliest gossip dated to July?

And anyway, that thread proved to be wrong. There was no Kindle launched in September.
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I don't know. The Voyage was out for about six months before the PW3 was released. So in that time, it was competing with the lower-spec PW2, and even then consumers didn't appear to see the extra Voyage features justified the extra cost.
Think about who buy the voyage. They are some combination of

* gadget freaks who want the latest and greatest
* heavy e readers who can justify spending more for what they use most
* people with disposable income for whom an additional $80 isn't a huge deal
* people who really really want buttons, even pseudo buttons

This is not a huge group. No surprise it doesn't sell as well.

But I disagree with the blogger cited by nate who says the voyage may go the way of the DX. The DX appealed to an even smaller segment and butt-headed with tablets and lost. It was too expensive at the start and then too outdated at the end.
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See this is why I would never buy a reader from these guys. They're just not competent. If you can't understand that a product that generally does the same thing as something half it's price will not sell as many units then you are foolish. Obviously luxury products will sell fewer units. That is obvious to everyone.
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But I thought his earliest gossip dated to July?
Did it? ISTR we were snarking in that thread about him copying us -- says or more like weeks later.
Maybe I remember wrongly.

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And anyway, that thread proved to be wrong. There was no Kindle launched in September.
It turned out the "Kindle" launched in September was the Fire, and in the latest(?) conversation @Gazella had, the ACS person said:

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Yes there is a Kindle Voyage releasing in November 2015 as well with the new Paperwhite

As soon as these Fires are released the Voyage and Paperwhite will be announced


Now I will certainly grant you that Amazon seems to have been trying to confuse people and there still is no solid guarantee that ACS was telling the truth.
Although I think they would be foolish to lie.
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