New Sigil Release: Sigil-0.8.901 - Page 9

Arios · 11-01-2015, 03:11 PM

Kevin, could you also check why SanityCheck does not yell when there is no <p></p> at all in a html file (try it for yourself); here Win HP 64b, Sigil 0.8.901).

KevinH · 11-01-2015, 03:16 PM

Hi Arios,

It will not. It only checks for sanity - ie if the xhtml can actually be parsed and other major things like that. So any parseable xhtml text will pass. It is not a conformance checker like FlightCrew was.

The whole idea with sanity checker is to prevent autocleaning from messing up. You can now quickly detect issues with parsing yourself and hand fix them, if you are worried that autofixing will hurt your code in some way.

Sigil has outsourced all validation checks to plugins like FlightCrew and Doitsu's epubcheck.

Hope this explains things.

Kevin

KevinH · 11-01-2015, 03:18 PM

Hi jugaor,

This bug is now fixed in Sigil master. The fix will appear in the upcoming Sigil-0.9.0.

Thank you for your bug report and test case!

KevinH

Quote:

Originally Posted by jugaor

Hi.
Thank you very much for keeping alive the Sigil project!

1. I think I've found a serious problem with Pretty Print Gumbo (0.8.901, Win7-x64): it joins contiguous labels, creating false "long" words.
Ex:

Code:

<p><u>Prueba</u> <i>de</i> <b>texto</b> <span class="nosep">junto</span></p>

becames

Code:

<p><u>Prueba</u><i>de</i><b>texto</b><span class="nosep">junto</span></p>

It reads: Pruebadetextojunto.
(Besides the use of deprecated < u > tags

)
BTW, the Google Gumbo-Parser is fine (although I don't want changes to the code --as I understand it is equivalent to the previous HTML Tidy).

2. It's possible maintain two versions of Sigil, with independent Preferences folders? I prefer to keep active the 0.87 Pretty Print Tidy option for the daily work, but launching 0.89 it becomes the now erroneous PPGumbo.

Thank you very much!
(and sorry for my terrible English.)

Arios · 11-01-2015, 03:19 PM

Yes, thank you Kevin and have a nice week.

jugaor · 11-01-2015, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

No. Google Gumbo-Parser is not the equivalent of HTML Tidy. In fact, Google Gumbo-Parser is the option you want to select if you want Sigil to make the very least changes to your code possible. Pretty-Print is the more intrusive option.

Any chance to interchange their current presentation order at Preferences window?
By consistence with the former versions (iirc, since 0.6x) = "the first one is less intrusive", many upgraders could think my way

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm afraid this isn't very likely to happen. If you wish to run two different versions of Sigil on the same machine, I would recommend using something like Portable Apps' version of Sigil for the older version.

With my above suggestion, this would be "transparent".

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I can confirm what you're experiencing here. The problem is really exacerbated when the only "text" outside of inline tags (inside a block-level tag) is whitespace. Recommendation for now is to exclusively use the Pretty Print Gumbo clean source setting. At least until we move Pretty Print to a plugin (or at least a feature separate from the clean source settings) where it belongs.

Did you mean "Recommendation for now is to exclusively use the Google Gumbo-Parser clean source setting"??

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

Hi jugaor,

This bug is now fixed in Sigil master. The fix will appear in the upcoming Sigil-0.9.0.

Thank you for your bug report and test case!

KevinH

Thank you very much both!

JeffPalley · 11-02-2015, 12:10 PM

I used Sigil in the past (two years ago), and I want to use it again. At that time, I considered myself fairly adept as a user, but never had any knowledge of its internals, and never expect to have any. I'm wondering if it would be dangerous to download the new 0.8.901 version to play with, alongside (on the same computer) with the most current public release of Sigil (0.8.7 I think)?

I notice that DiapDealer recommends using the "Portable Apps' version of Sigil for the older version, but that doesn't quite give me the confidence I was hoping for. Any more straightforward way of using the newest publicly released standard version of Sigil alongside the newest beta Sigil?

Thanks, -Jeff

KevinH · 11-02-2015, 12:32 PM

The only overlap is with the Sigil.ini file, which is why the Portable Apps version was recommended.

Alternatively, Just wait a week or so and Sigil-0.9.0 should be released and it will not be a pre-release.

KevinH

JeffPalley · 11-02-2015, 02:04 PM

Kevin,

Thanks,
Jeff

DiapDealer · 11-02-2015, 02:07 PM

Yes. Multiple versions of the official Sigil on the same machine will still share the same Sigi.ini file. And hence the same preferences, the same plugins, and the same plugin configurations/preferences. That's the only reason I suggested the Portable Apps version for one of the versions (the older one in this case): so that they would truly be completely independent of each other. I can't, in good conscience, recommend running two different versions of Sigil that will be writing/accessing the same configuration files on the same machine. That's all. It's not that I don't have confidence in the stability of either version.

gbm · 11-02-2015, 11:12 PM

I just did a new build of Sigil--Linix Mint 17.2--and had a lot of:

Code:

warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Wsign-compare]

Are they expected?
The build seems to work ok.

bernie

eschwartz · 11-02-2015, 11:21 PM

Warnings during compilation are totally normal.

Obviously, more could be done to make the code neater, silencing the warnings, but funnily enough that tends to be a lower priority for people/projects, who prefer working on the functionality.

That's why they're warnings, not errors.

gbm · 11-02-2015, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Warnings during compilation are totally normal.

Obviously, more could be done to make the code neater, silencing the warnings, but funnily enough that tends to be a lower priority for people/projects, who prefer working on the functionality.

That's why they're warnings, not errors.

You must never have worked in a hardware/software lab doing government contract work.

I did not remember getting as many warning with my last build.

bernie

eschwartz · 11-02-2015, 11:42 PM

I noticed a lot of the warnings were in the gumbo stuff

less time to make that pretty I guess.

And while I can certainly see them (gov't contractors) not focusing on functionality, I find it hard to believe they make up for it by beautifying the code either.

crutledge · 11-03-2015, 04:42 AM

[QUOTE=Arios;3194834]
And the incriminating crutledge's epub could now be renamed: Arios's Warning, The
QUOTE]

Arios, Was there something wrong with the book? What do I need to fix?

Charlie

crankypants · 11-03-2015, 08:39 AM

I swear just minutes ago there was a thread here about getting help with updating the Sigil EPUB docs. Does the author still need help with that? I know GIT and EPUB.

What is the forum username of the author anyway? I wanted to say "Thanks for Sigil". It's my preferred Epub editor.

11-02-2015, 12:10 PM	#126
JeffPalley Yold Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: none	I used Sigil in the past (two years ago), and I want to use it again. At that time, I considered myself fairly adept as a user, but never had any knowledge of its internals, and never expect to have any. I'm wondering if it would be dangerous to download the new 0.8.901 version to play with, alongside (on the same computer) with the most current public release of Sigil (0.8.7 I think)? I notice that DiapDealer recommends using the "Portable Apps' version of Sigil for the older version, but that doesn't quite give me the confidence I was hoping for. Any more straightforward way of using the newest publicly released standard version of Sigil alongside the newest beta Sigil? Thanks, -Jeff Last edited by JeffPalley; 11-02-2015 at 12:22 PM.

11-03-2015, 08:39 AM	#135
crankypants Hmm. Posts: 124 Karma: 2016606 Join Date: Oct 2015 Device: Android 4.2 Google Play Reader	Help with updating EPUB Sigil docs? I swear just minutes ago there was a thread here about getting help with updating the Sigil EPUB docs. Does the author still need help with that? I know GIT and EPUB. What is the forum username of the author anyway? I wanted to say "Thanks for Sigil". It's my preferred Epub editor.

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11-01-2015, 03:11 PM	#121
Arios A curiosus lector! Posts: 463 Karma: 2015140 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch	Kevin, could you also check why SanityCheck does not yell when there is no <p></p> at all in a html file (try it for yourself); here Win HP 64b, Sigil 0.8.901).

11-01-2015, 03:16 PM	#122
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,797 Karma: 6000000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Hi Arios, It will not. It only checks for sanity - ie if the xhtml can actually be parsed and other major things like that. So any parseable xhtml text will pass. It is not a conformance checker like FlightCrew was. The whole idea with sanity checker is to prevent autocleaning from messing up. You can now quickly detect issues with parsing yourself and hand fix them, if you are worried that autofixing will hurt your code in some way. Sigil has outsourced all validation checks to plugins like FlightCrew and Doitsu's epubcheck. Hope this explains things. Kevin

11-01-2015, 03:19 PM	#124
Arios A curiosus lector! Posts: 463 Karma: 2015140 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Kobo Touch	Yes, thank you Kevin and have a nice week.

11-02-2015, 12:32 PM	#127
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,797 Karma: 6000000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	The only overlap is with the Sigil.ini file, which is why the Portable Apps version was recommended. Alternatively, Just wait a week or so and Sigil-0.9.0 should be released and it will not be a pre-release. KevinH

11-02-2015, 02:04 PM	#128
JeffPalley Yold Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2011 Device: none	Kevin, Thanks, Jeff

11-02-2015, 02:07 PM	#129
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,591 Karma: 204624552 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Yes. Multiple versions of the official Sigil on the same machine will still share the same Sigi.ini file. And hence the same preferences, the same plugins, and the same plugin configurations/preferences. That's the only reason I suggested the Portable Apps version for one of the versions (the older one in this case): so that they would truly be completely independent of each other. I can't, in good conscience, recommend running two different versions of Sigil that will be writing/accessing the same configuration files on the same machine. That's all. It's not that I don't have confidence in the stability of either version.

11-02-2015, 11:21 PM	#131
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Warnings during compilation are totally normal. Obviously, more could be done to make the code neater, silencing the warnings, but funnily enough that tends to be a lower priority for people/projects, who prefer working on the functionality. That's why they're warnings, not errors.

11-02-2015, 11:42 PM	#133
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I noticed a lot of the warnings were in the gumbo stuff less time to make that pretty I guess. And while I can certainly see them (gov't contractors) not focusing on functionality, I find it hard to believe they make up for it by beautifying the code either.

11-03-2015, 04:42 AM	#134
crutledge eBook FANatic Posts: 18,301 Karma: 16078357 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Device: HP ipac RX5915 Wife's Kindle	[QUOTE=Arios;3194834] And the incriminating crutledge's epub could now be renamed: Arios's Warning, The QUOTE] Arios, Was there something wrong with the book? What do I need to fix? Charlie