Problem with language and metadata download

Terisa de morgan · 10-10-2015, 04:36 AM

Hi,

I don't know if this is happening to more people but, lately, a lot of metadata download are wrongly changing the book language from English (the original and right one) to Spanish. I'm not sure if it's related to the data at the sites (although I don't think that so many books have wrong metadata), a change at the data interface or calibre itself.

The last book I've looked for (The Solomon Curse - Clive Cussle) give me Spanish language at amazon.com, B&N, Fantastic Fiction and goodreads, and I've set the ISBN.

I've tried to run the debug mode, but I haven't found any info at the log.

kovidgoyal · 10-10-2015, 08:10 AM

I dont see this, using the default metadata download sources of amazon.com (not amazon.es) and google. See screenshot.

BetterRed · 10-10-2015, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

I've set the ISBN.

Set to what, English books start with 0 or 1, Spanish with 84 - but I'm sure you know that

Few years ago I bought a few books, IIRC they were from the old MobiPocket site. They were in English, published by UK publishers, but within the book, the ISBN numbers were Spanish (84xxxxxxxx). So that's what got extracted via the Extract ISBN PI, and used by the the metadata search.

BR

Terisa de morgan · 10-11-2015, 02:12 AM

This is what I got using goodreads metadata dowload (same other sources: Amzon.com, B&N, FantasticFiction):

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And no 984 at the isbn.

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 02:17 AM

Turn off the sources one by one until you find the one causing the problem.

Terisa de morgan · 10-11-2015, 02:42 AM

All of them (turned off all but one, and all of them have the problem). The first time I look at Amazon.com I get two matches, one without summary and Spanish language and one with summary and English language but other ISBN.

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 03:13 AM

I dont understand what you are saying. If you put in an ISBN that points to a spanish language edition, then you will get spanish as your language. Remove the isbn and use only title and author. As I posted before, using only title and author with no isbn returns the correct, english language result from both google and amazon for me.

chookie2 · 10-11-2015, 03:21 AM

I recently updated to Calibre 2.40 and since then my Metadata is supplying random books not at all the same as the one in the metadata window. I now need to keep Goodreads open and search that. Grrr Yes some are foreign languages but most in English, just not related to the book searched for .

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 03:23 AM

There were no changes to metadata download in calibre 2.40 but feel free to downgrade to a previous release if you want to.

Terisa de morgan · 10-11-2015, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I dont understand what you are saying. If you put in an ISBN that points to a spanish language edition, then you will get spanish as your language. Remove the isbn and use only title and author. As I posted before, using only title and author with no isbn returns the correct, english language result from both google and amazon for me.

I'm pointing to an edition that, because of some reason, doesn't have language as a property. When this happen, instead of leaving the language field alone, it's filling it with the interface language (I've switched the interface from Español (Spanish) to English, and the field is fulfilled with English (if I change to Català, the field is fulfilled ith Català). I suppose it has always happened the same but I'm finding now more editions without this field fulfilled.

Perhaps it's the normal way to work or there is a tweak, I don't know.

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 06:44 AM

Yeah, that has always been that way.

Terisa de morgan · 10-11-2015, 06:55 AM

Well, it's a problem for me but we'll check it..

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 07:00 AM

The vast majority of people read most books in the same language as their interface language, the question is why you are not getting language any more.

Look at the metadata download log, does it show a language?

kovidgoyal · 10-11-2015, 07:05 AM

For example when I look at the log for The solomon curse, I see two results from amazon, one of which does not have a language, and visiting that result's amazon page, shows that indeed, the language is not specified there:

http://www.amazon.com/Solomon-Curse-...rds=B010EW0LFC

Terisa de morgan · 10-11-2015, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

The vast majority of people read most books in the same language as their interface language, the question is why you are not getting language any more.

Look at the metadata download log, does it show a language?

xxxxx

10-10-2015, 04:36 AM	#1
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Problem with language and metadata download Hi, I don't know if this is happening to more people but, lately, a lot of metadata download are wrongly changing the book language from English (the original and right one) to Spanish. I'm not sure if it's related to the data at the sites (although I don't think that so many books have wrong metadata), a change at the data interface or calibre itself. The last book I've looked for (The Solomon Curse - Clive Cussle) give me Spanish language at amazon.com, B&N, Fantastic Fiction and goodreads, and I've set the ISBN. I've tried to run the debug mode, but I haven't found any info at the log.

10-10-2015, 08:10 AM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I dont see this, using the default metadata download sources of amazon.com (not amazon.es) and google. See screenshot. Attached Thumbnails

10-11-2015, 02:12 AM	#4
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	This is what I got using goodreads metadata dowload (same other sources: Amzon.com, B&N, FantasticFiction): And no 984 at the isbn.

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10-11-2015, 02:17 AM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Turn off the sources one by one until you find the one causing the problem.

10-11-2015, 02:42 AM	#6
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	All of them (turned off all but one, and all of them have the problem). The first time I look at Amazon.com I get two matches, one without summary and Spanish language and one with summary and English language but other ISBN.

10-11-2015, 03:13 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I dont understand what you are saying. If you put in an ISBN that points to a spanish language edition, then you will get spanish as your language. Remove the isbn and use only title and author. As I posted before, using only title and author with no isbn returns the correct, english language result from both google and amazon for me.

10-11-2015, 03:21 AM	#8
chookie2 Connoisseur Posts: 91 Karma: 648694 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: ipad mc7 16gig	I recently updated to Calibre 2.40 and since then my Metadata is supplying random books not at all the same as the one in the metadata window. I now need to keep Goodreads open and search that. Grrr Yes some are foreign languages but most in English, just not related to the book searched for .

10-11-2015, 03:23 AM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	There were no changes to metadata download in calibre 2.40 but feel free to downgrade to a previous release if you want to.

10-11-2015, 06:44 AM	#11
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Yeah, that has always been that way.

10-11-2015, 06:55 AM	#12
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,635 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Well, it's a problem for me but we'll check it..

10-11-2015, 07:00 AM	#13
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The vast majority of people read most books in the same language as their interface language, the question is why you are not getting language any more. Look at the metadata download log, does it show a language?

10-11-2015, 07:05 AM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,359 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	For example when I look at the log for The solomon curse, I see two results from amazon, one of which does not have a language, and visiting that result's amazon page, shows that indeed, the language is not specified there: http://www.amazon.com/Solomon-Curse-...rds=B010EW0LFC

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