Question for the community: what to display if "Show empties" if unchecked

chaley · 10-06-2015, 06:07 PM

The CC setting Settings / Grouping Drawer / Show empty values in groups controls whether the <<>> value appears in the grouping drawer. A question from a user and also my ruminations cause me to wonder whether I am interpreting that check box correctly.

Currently, no matter what the value of the check box, tapping on a group in the grouping drawer shows all books regardless of whether or not the book has a value for that group. It seems to me that if the option is unchecked then tapping on the group should show only books that have a value for that group.

Example:

If the box is checked, then tapping on Series will show all books regardless of whether or not they have a series. This is consistent with showing the <<>> line in the grouping drawer permitting selection or restriction of books without a series. To see only books with a series you must long-press on the <<>> line and select not-matching.
If the box is unchecked and if I make the changes, then tapping on Series would show only books that have a series. The <<>> line would be hidden.

Any comments?

And yes, I might not be clear, in which case feel free to let me know.

Bear in mind that changing this would be a rather significant functional change for CC, something that makes me nervous.

Purple Lady · 10-06-2015, 09:44 PM

I've always had the box checked, but it makes sense to me that if the box is not checked I shouldn't see any books with no values. I normally don't look at all books from the grouping drawer unless I choose no grouping. I always choose one of the groupings if I want to see only a specific grouping.

kaufman · 10-06-2015, 10:51 PM

I feel like we had this conversation once before. My opinion is the same as purple lady's. If the option is unchecked, blank items should not be shown.

Terisa de morgan · 10-07-2015, 09:26 AM

I agree with Purple Lady and kaufman, unchecked => Not shown.

chaley · 10-07-2015, 11:39 AM

OK, three is enough.

I will put the change into Friday's beta.

10-06-2015, 06:07 PM	#1
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,525 Karma: 8065948 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	Question for the community: what to display if "Show empties" if unchecked The CC setting Settings / Grouping Drawer / Show empty values in groups controls whether the <<>> value appears in the grouping drawer. A question from a user and also my ruminations cause me to wonder whether I am interpreting that check box correctly. Currently, no matter what the value of the check box, tapping on a group in the grouping drawer shows all books regardless of whether or not the book has a value for that group. It seems to me that if the option is unchecked then tapping on the group should show only books that have a value for that group. Example: If the box is checked, then tapping on Series will show all books regardless of whether or not they have a series. This is consistent with showing the <<>> line in the grouping drawer permitting selection or restriction of books without a series. To see only books with a series you must long-press on the <<>> line and select not-matching. If the box is unchecked and if I make the changes, then tapping on Series would show only books that have a series. The <<>> line would be hidden. Any comments? And yes, I might not be clear, in which case feel free to let me know. Bear in mind that changing this would be a rather significant functional change for CC, something that makes me nervous. Last edited by chaley; 10-06-2015 at 06:09 PM.

10-06-2015, 10:51 PM	#3
kaufman Calibre Companion Fanatic Posts: 873 Karma: 1088610 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Galaxy Note 4, Kindle Voyage	I feel like we had this conversation once before. My opinion is the same as purple lady's. If the option is unchecked, blank items should not be shown. Last edited by kaufman; 10-07-2015 at 09:43 AM.

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10-06-2015, 09:44 PM	#2
Purple Lady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,698 Karma: 16542228 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Device: Huawei MediaPad M5, LG V30, Boyue T80S, Nexus 7 LTE, K3 3G, Fire HD8	I've always had the box checked, but it makes sense to me that if the box is not checked I shouldn't see any books with no values. I normally don't look at all books from the grouping drawer unless I choose no grouping. I always choose one of the groupings if I want to see only a specific grouping.

10-07-2015, 09:26 AM	#4
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,686 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	I agree with Purple Lady and kaufman, unchecked => Not shown.

10-07-2015, 11:39 AM	#5
chaley Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,525 Karma: 8065948 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Notts, England Device: Kobo Libra 2	OK, three is enough. I will put the change into Friday's beta.

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