How to swop LN,FN to FN LN in template

[Hoods7070]

Someone told me how to do this ages ago, but I've long since lost that template. Please can someone tell me where and exactly what to append to {author} in a template to swop LN,FN to FN LN. (By default my library is in LN,FN order.)

Many thanks

[theducks]

use {author_sort} for Export
This does not affect the Library

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[chaley]

Originally Posted by Hoods7070

Someone told me how to do this ages ago, but I've long since lost that template. Please can someone tell me where and exactly what to append to {author} in a template to swop LN,FN to FN LN. (By default my library is in LN,FN order.)

I assume you are saying that your authors are in LN, FN order and that your library is sorted in LN, FN order. This means that both the author and author_sort columns are LN, FN. If this is the case, use the swap_around_comma template function

{author:swap_around_comma()}

[Hoods7070]

Originally Posted by theducks

use {author_sort} for Export
This does not affect the Library

Thanks - I already do that. However, that affects only the exported folder titles, as far as I can see, and what I am after is changing the display in the jacket.

I am just exploring alternatives and trying to get to understand templates better, with limited success so far.

[Hoods7070]

Originally Posted by chaley

I assume you are saying that your authors are in LN, FN order and that your library is sorted in LN, FN order.

That is indeed what I was saying.

This means that both the author and author_sort columns are LN, FN.

Yes. Given that, I am now **assuming** I should be adding/substituting the "BuiltinSwapAroundComma" function you gave me into this line of code in my calibre jacket template:

<td class="cbj_author" colspan="2">{author}</td>

Where and exactly how should I change that, please? Indeed is that even where I need to add the function?? I have tried various things with {author}, none of which works for me. Should I have a value(s) between the parentheses in

 {author:swap_around_comma()}

and if so what?

Previously, I had added a hidden column containing FN LN (sans comma) and called that from my jacket template, but I am darned if I can remember or find out how to add that second author column correctly. Again, I have tried various things (adding custom column) to no useful avail. I think BetterRed helped me out, but can't find the relevant thread.

Sorry to be so dim. Old age is a b**ch.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Hoods7070

Thanks - I already do that. However, that affects only the exported folder titles, as far as I can see, and what I am after is changing the display in the jacket.

I am just exploring alternatives and trying to get to understand templates better, with limited success so far.

You may need to make a hack of the Jacket code.
Remember to put code hacks (substitutes) into the Calibre Configuration folder using the exact same program relative path. That way is safe against being overwritten during weekly upgrades (although, it might fail at some future time) .

[Hoods7070]

Previously, I had added a hidden column containing FN LN (sans comma) and called that from my jacket template, but I am darned if I can remember or find out how to add that second author column correctly. Again, I have tried various things (adding custom column) to no useful avail. I think BetterRed helped me out, but can't find the relevant thread.

OK I got the second custom column OK, named "fnln". I am now trying to figure out/remember how to add THAT to my template line.

[chaley]

Originally Posted by Hoods7070

Yes. Given that, I am now **assuming** I should be adding/substituting the "BuiltinSwapAroundComma" function you gave me into this line of code in my calibre jacket template:

Ahhh. You didn't say that you were working with a jacket template. Jackets do not support the template language.

Previously, I had added a hidden column containing FN LN (sans comma) and called that from my jacket template, but I am darned if I can remember or find out how to add that second author column correctly. Again, I have tried various things (adding custom column) to no useful avail. I think BetterRed helped me out, but can't find the relevant thread.

You would use a "Column built from other columns". The template would be the one I showed in post 3. You would then follow the instructions in template.xhtml to include that value on the jacket. Assuming that your custom column has the lookup name #myauthor I think that you would add something like

            	<tr>
            		<td class="cbj_author" colspan="2">{_myauthor}</td>
            	</tr>

I don't use the jacket feature so I don't have first-hand experience with it.

EDIT: I hadn't seen your last post. Try _fnln where I put _myauthor

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by Hoods7070

I think BetterRed helped me out, but can't find the relevant thread.

@Hoods7070 - if you say so, I can't recall it nor can I find it, but sin taxes all of us I guess

But chaley has given you the answer - I do have a vague memory that on first sight 'swap around comma' reminded me of Arlo Guthrie's "Ring around Rosie Rag" from Alice's Restaurant.

BR

'Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale' , Shakespeare, Antony and Cleopatra

[Hoods7070]

@chaley_not_charley, AHAH!!! For the want of a flipping underscore!!! Added that and viola! (sic) - THANK you.

@ducks, I found that post, and had been hacking away, but it didn't contain the vital info -- chaley's underscore.

@br

'Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale' , Shakespeare, Anthony and Cleopatra

Age HAS withered her.

As they say, when the age is in, the wit is out. Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing

Many thanks all of you.