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Old 09-03-2015, 10:00 AM   #1
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Question regarding procedure . . .
This has been bothering me for a while, but I don't know if this is a valid peeve or if I'm just being a curmdgeon. Should books on the Kindle Unlimited program be counted as Free or a Deal? (Actually, it bothered me more when I wasn't signed up for KU so I'm not above serving my self interest, but I still think it is theoretically a valid point.)

I mean we ARE paying for those books at what is effectively a contractual price. The price a KU user pays for a book really depends on how many books he or she downloads a month, so maybe it's a deal, and maybe it isn't.

I do think KU is important enough that when a popular author joins the KU program, it should be announced . . . somewhere. But is Deals, Freebies, and Resources the best place for it?

I'm willing to go with the consensus, but I do wonder if we are diluting the value of "DF&R"
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:12 AM   #2
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(speaking as a member and not a moderator) With a few exceptions, KU books really shouldn't be in this forum. The same rule should apply to Scribd, Oyster, etc.

One exception would be if a popular title is added to KU/Scribd/Oyster. I'm sure there are others.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:18 AM   #3
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Could add a "New to KU" thread as a sticky?
At least it will only take up one thread then.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:25 AM   #4
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Could add a "New to KU" thread as a sticky?
At least it will only take up one thread then.
I could get behind that.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:26 AM   #5
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Although, we have so many stickies that thy really need their own sub-forum. I'm not sure one more is a good idea.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:09 AM   #6
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This has been bothering me for a while, but I don't know if this is a valid peeve or if I'm just being a curmdgeon. Should books on the Kindle Unlimited program be counted as Free or a Deal? (Actually, it bothered me more when I wasn't signed up for KU so I'm not above serving my self interest, but I still think it is theoretically a valid point.)

I mean we ARE paying for those books at what is effectively a contractual price. The price a KU user pays for a book really depends on how many books he or she downloads a month, so maybe it's a deal, and maybe it isn't.

I do think KU is important enough that when a popular author joins the KU program, it should be announced . . . somewhere. But is Deals, Freebies, and Resources the best place for it?

I'm willing to go with the consensus, but I do wonder if we are diluting the value of "DF&R"
Sometimes, KU books are made available free of charge to everyone, including non-subscribers to the KU program. IMO, those are the only KU books that belong in the Deals, Freebies, and Resources (No Self-Promotion) threads.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:35 AM   #7
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Should books on the Kindle Unlimited program be counted as Free or a Deal?
No, they shouldn't IMO. However, I have never seen such a thing posted.

There are freebies/deals posted which are also part of KU, but at the time of being posted have been marked down for all readers. Those books eventually go back up in price (often only free for a day or two) so if someone doesn't follow the deals area daily and were to check a freebie posted say a week ago then it's no longer likely to be free for everyone anymore.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:41 AM   #8
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No, they shouldn't IMO. However, I have never seen such a thing posted.

There are freebies/deals posted which are also part of KU, but at the time of being posted have been marked down for all readers. Those books eventually go back up in price (often only free for a day or two) so if someone doesn't follow the deals area daily and were to check a freebie posted say a week ago then it's no longer likely to be free for everyone anymore.
I've seen them, and it's pretty irritating if you aren't a subscriber. When you are, not so much! You certainly don't notice as much!

Maybe we don't need a hard and fast rule so much as consensus as to the ettiquette of the situation.
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Old 09-03-2015, 11:46 AM   #9
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Since one has to pays to rent books, that is not a deal for everyone. To me, deals and freebies only apply to sales not rentals.
Now yes, if they are on sale to the buyer, then it is a deal.

Note, free days and countdown deals are the reasons I don't subscribe to KU. If I want a book that is available in KU, I just wait till it goes on special. Then there is no hurry to read it.
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I've seen them, and it's pretty irritating if you aren't a subscriber.
It certainly would be. I'm not a KU subscriber, but even if I was I wouldn't consider something that can be read free with KU to be a "deal".

You're sure it wasn't something that had been free and and subsequently gone back up in price?
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Moved to FEEDBACK FORUM, since this is not a deal or freebie, but rather where one should post and what the criteria should be regarding posting on Mobileread, with respect to KUs.


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