Firmware 3.17.3 Discussion

[tschucha]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

You can go back to 3.15 by download that firmware by : https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=185660
It that topic you can find the right software, the way how to do it, and a link to the patch for that software.
In that patch is the possibility to shut of the upgrade so you stay on 3.15.
No need to reset the factory settings, the downgrade keeps the current ones including the books.

Thank you - I am now back to 3.15. I only sync to get new updates so I'll just leave wifi off until I read about the next update.

[dordale]

Originally Posted by Ripplinger

Give us those choices to make the changes on the screen, but also give us the choice to enable those features or disable them, and Kobo could make everyone happy.

I agree 100%--I often adjust the brightness and font size depending on lighting conditions and how tired my eyes are. So, I'd love to have the option to adjust both with quick swipes on the screen--but I know others use their readers differently than I do. Choice is always a good thing!

[eenk]

Originally Posted by dordale

Choice is always a good thing!

While I perfectly understand your stance I often got the impression that people really enjoying choice seem to belong to a small group (no pun here). I don't consider eink readers to be geared towards option-affine users so I would assume that the larger user base consists of users that either don't care or is even irritated by too many choices.

I often have similar discussions with well-versed product managers, and this even for a highly technological product field with expert users. These are good discussions, trying to tackle different user types if possible. But things tend to get cluttered over time. My impression is that anything you do not really need should be out of your way ... well, this probably exactly proves your point of allowed to disable the slide gesture

And having many options can also be a nightmare to developers and test. Sometimes it is really best to keep it simple because otherwise due to time and investment pressure developers may screw things considerably. But just my rant...

[GERGE]

KISS is the key. But KISS doesn't mean that it is just basic barebones, look at Arch Linux, for an example.

[Nick_1964]

Originally Posted by eenk

While I perfectly understand your stance I often got the impression that people really enjoying choice seem to belong to a small group (no pun here). I don't consider eink readers to be geared towards option-affine users so I would assume that the larger user base consists of users that either don't care or is even irritated by too many choices.

Not here, I don't want to have all those options,like GERGE: KISS but Kobo seems to find it funny not to have a good reader, but to add all kind of functions with every new firmware, and this extra options are unwanted by a lot of users but the only topic Kobo seems to read are the future requests.
Most of the time they add basic functions that are already there in a new way.. There is a reset button.. oh not handy enough we implement a sickel, there was a light switch, no we remove that,then there was a way to adjust the light by an exta menu.. no.. lets not do that,we make a lefthanded screen dimmer.. There was an option to enlarge the font, no.. we make an extra option for that.
And with every extra thing they create problems who have to be solved in a new release,in stead of removing old bugs.

So no, I don't like all those extra things,i like my ready basic for reading,but I certainly doesn't want to bother all people with my way of reading,so add them all you like Kobo,make it a disco device if people want, but give us the control to switch all those things off.

[eenk]

Originally Posted by Nick_1964

make it a disco device if people want

[dordale]

Choice is good. Simple is good too. You can make things so they function very simply out of the box--and include "advanced settings" for folks who want to make changes. The reader (or whatever) can work perfectly without any tinkering but if someone wants finer control over their user interface they can get in and tinker with the settings.

[jackastor]

Originally Posted by dordale

Choice is good. Simple is good too. You can make things so they function very simply out of the box--and include "advanced settings" for folks who want to make changes. The reader (or whatever) can work perfectly without any tinkering but if someone wants finer control over their user interface they can get in and tinker with the settings.

Aside from Reading, what other use is a reader. Its simple function is to be read, so Font, Font size, Brightness(assuming backlighting),Contrast really what more is needed. I know I know lots of you will have a strong opinion here but really its a reader. That's all it should be used as, its too slow and mono chromatic for proper internet browsing; the browser is really only intended to be used as a simple interface with external book sources such as public libraries, its not meant to be used as the browser of choice for surfing.

at any rate that's just my 2 cents

REgards

JAck

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by forster01

in 3.17.3 css font-variant: small-caps still doesnt work. when they fix this BASIC bugg and some others html tag bugs then thay can think of fixing some o the issues considering touch screen driver ... etc
It is a bit embarrassing thay they didnt fix that basic html (css) bugs

Nonetheless im happy with my Aura HD (still loving it)

You have this all wrong. None of these basic bugs you mention are Kobo's fault. These are done by Adobe who wrote RMDSK that Kobo uses. RMDSK (ADE) never did support small-caps. I think it never will.

[murg]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You have this all wrong. None of these basic bugs you mention are Kobo's fault. These are done by Adobe who wrote RMDSK that Kobo uses. RMDSK (ADE) never did support small-caps. I think it never will.

You have this all wrong. These are done by Adobe who wrote RMDSK that Kobo uses. Therefore it is Kobo's fault.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by murg

You have this all wrong. These are done by Adobe who wrote RMDSK that Kobo uses. Therefore it is Kobo's fault.

You have it so wrong it cannot get any more wrong. It's not Kobo's fault. Do you really expect Kobo to rewrite RMDSK? I would not expect that nor want that.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by murg

You have this all wrong. These are done by Adobe who wrote RMDSK that Kobo uses. Therefore it is Kobo's fault.

From what I can make out of your statement above, if I use a software product, any missing features in that software product are my fault. Any bugs are my responsibility. Am I, perchance, missing the mandatory <sarcasm> & </sarcasm> tags?

On a more serious note, what alternative renderer would you suggest that Kobo use that would have compatibility with Adobe's ADEPT DRM used by virtually every supplier of DRMed epub ebooks, not require a major rewrite to work on their variant of Linux and not have any bugs or missing features?

[meeera]

Originally Posted by jackastor

Aside from Reading, what other use is a reader. Its simple function is to be read, so Font, Font size, Brightness(assuming backlighting),Contrast really what more is needed. I know I know lots of you will have a strong opinion here but really its a reader. That's all it should be used as, its too slow and mono chromatic for proper internet browsing;

Font weight, margins, line spacing, ragged-right, light swipe, and tap zones all make a big difference to my reading experience. None of those have anything to do with web browsing.

[dordale]

Originally Posted by jackastor

Aside from Reading, what other use is a reader. Its simple function is to be read, so Font, Font size, Brightness(assuming backlighting),Contrast really what more is needed. I know I know lots of you will have a strong opinion here but really its a reader. That's all it should be used as, its too slow and mono chromatic for proper internet browsing; the browser is really only intended to be used as a simple interface with external book sources such as public libraries, its not meant to be used as the browser of choice for surfing.

at any rate that's just my 2 cents

REgards

JAck

In my previous posts regarding choices, I mentioned being able to change font sizes and front-light brightness quickly by swiping the sides of the screen. No where did I mention internet browsing--not something I've ever been interested in doing on any of my readers...not sure where you got the idea I was talking about internet browsing!

And I agree with Meera. In addition to font size and front light adjustments--font weight, margins, justification, line spacing, and tap zones are all adjustments that should be customizable by the user to allow for an optimal reading experience.

[outlandos]

Originally Posted by meeera

Font weight, margins, line spacing, ragged-right, light swipe, and tap zones all make a big difference to my reading experience. None of those have anything to do with web browsing.

This.