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Old 08-11-2015, 12:40 AM   #181
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The worst that can happen is that you have to buy the cheapest used eink kindle and register it to your account - then download the books to computer for "transfer over usb" - except that you would put Alf in there before the book ever reaches your ereader. Heck, if you don't want, you don't have to ever turn that Kindle on.
I bought a Kindle (1st Generation) for this very reason. I'm not even sure I know where it is.
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Old 08-11-2015, 02:33 AM   #182
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The worst that can happen is that you have to buy the cheapest used eink kindle and register it to your account - then download the books to computer for "transfer over usb" - except that you would put Alf in there before the book ever reaches your ereader. Heck, if you don't want, you don't have to ever turn that Kindle on.
If someone does this they should be aware that the model and firmware of the registered Kindle will determine what flavor of book file (MOBI or AZW3) is downloaded from Amazon for installation via USB. You need to have a newer model Kindle if you want the newer AZW3 (KF8) format. Advanced formatting will be lost for some books if only MOBI format is used.

Also, I think that these days you need to register the device to your account via the Kindle interface, so it needs to work well enough to to accomplish that. A Kindle that won't power on or has a totally broken screen will prevent that. (A Kindle with a few lines on the screen due to a broken substrate would work.)
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You need to have a newer model Kindle if you want the newer AZW3 (KF8) format. Advanced formatting will be lost for some books if only MOBI format is used.
'Newer model' is Kindle 3/Kindle Keyboard or newer. K1 & K2 do not support KF8, and neither does the DX, which is essentially a K2 on steroids.
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One more thing. There have been reports of needing to delete and re-download books after installing the latest Kindle firmware in order to enable advanced typesetting for those books. This may mean that there is yet another variant of book that will be delivered based on the Kindle's model and firmware version. Time will tell.
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The worst that can happen is that you have to buy the cheapest used eink kindle and register it to your account - then download the books to computer for "transfer over usb" - except that you would put Alf in there before the book ever reaches your ereader. Heck, if you don't want, you don't have to ever turn that Kindle on.
I have a vintage (nearly dead screen) K2 against just that eventuality.
I long ago extracted its PID but it's still registered.
It may only deliver mobi7 instead of KF8 files but I'm not a stickler for fancy formatting anyway.

Thing is, Amazon doesn't care that much about hardening their DRM.
They seem to mostly go through the motions to keep up appearances.
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Old 08-11-2015, 08:47 AM   #187
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Not quite as simple as Kindle4PC.
That's an understatement. I started to read the instructions on the Help screen and got a headache.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:06 AM   #188
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It seems to be fixed. I'm on Windows and just imported 13 books without any problem.

Thank you.
I have just bought a Kobo Aura, and have a library of Kindle books on my ipad. How can I transfer them to the Kobo (I know that I will also have to use some software to make them readable). Sorry if this is a basic question, I'm not used to forums and could not find the most appropriate place for the question using "search".
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:12 AM   #189
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I have just bought a Kobo Aura, and have a library of Kindle books on my ipad. How can I transfer them to the Kobo (I know that I will also have to use some software to make them readable). Sorry if this is a basic question, I'm not used to forums and could not find the most appropriate place for the question using "search".
Detailed help on DRM removal isn't permitted on MobileRead. I suggest you find Apprentice Alf's blog (google will help) - that should give you all the info and tools you need.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:27 AM   #190
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Detailed help on DRM removal isn't permitted on MobileRead. I suggest you find Apprentice Alf's blog (google will help) - that should give you all the info and tools you need.
True. That's one reason the link isn't even given here. It's assumed that the reader will know where to go to get the tools and MR doesn't want to take the risk of getting some trouble by posting even the link to where they can be found.
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:32 AM   #191
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True. That's one reason the link isn't even given here. It's assumed that the reader will know where to go to get the tools and MR doesn't want to take the risk of getting some trouble by posting even the link to where they can be found.
Posting the link is absolutely fine. It's https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/
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Ah ok. I assumed that the link wasn't in order to help avoid problems. At least most times people say just to google AA's blog. I stand corrected.
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Also, I think that these days you need to register the device to your account via the Kindle interface, so it needs to work well enough to to accomplish that. A Kindle that won't power on or has a totally broken screen will prevent that. (A Kindle with a few lines on the screen due to a broken substrate would work.)
You can still call up Amazon Customer Service and they should be willing to register it. Just tel them you only have wired internet.
They probably won't even bother to ask why you don't do it over WiFi though.

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Detailed help on DRM removal isn't permitted on MobileRead. I suggest you find Apprentice Alf's blog (google will help) - that should give you all the info and tools you need.
Psst. Weren't you the moderator who publicly broke the news that direct links are now specifically permitted (per the amended guidelines)?
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I have a vintage (nearly dead screen) K2 against just that eventuality.
I long ago extracted its PID but it's still registered.
It may only deliver mobi7 instead of KF8 files but I'm not a stickler for fancy formatting anyway.

Thing is, Amazon doesn't care that much about hardening their DRM.
They seem to mostly go through the motions to keep up appearances.
Mobi7 can be an advantage. There is no support for any embedded spyware that may need to be cleaned up. And for a nicer look of presentation of mobi7 with custom linespacing, kerning, hinting, hyphenation, and such, there will probably be a filter to convert them the way you want them automatically. I don't trust each publisher to create nice and consistent great looking books only because the advanced typesetting becomes available. Quite the contrary - more choice to screw up will be taken advantage of.
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