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Old 07-19-2015, 10:09 PM   #196
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Okay, we have another suggestion for a description of Krypos and similar publishers: "weird name publishers." ha. Shall we have a contest to determine what we officially call these publishers, on Mobileread? If so, here are the first two suggestions:
1. Premium Public Domain Publishers.
2. Weird Name Publishers.
Would other Mobilereaders like to weigh in?

Concerning Gutenberg . . . . do the Gutenberg ebooks have attractive covers? I think that that was the issue for Dr. Drib. I don't use Gutenberg much, but I don't remember a book there having much of a cover--maybe just the typed name of the book, the author, and maybe some other little stuff.
I vote number two.

Do Gutenberg books even have covers? I don't recall seeing a single one.

... then again, not really interested in the covers, just want to read.
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Old 07-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #197
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I vote number two.

Do Gutenberg books even have covers? I don't recall seeing a single one.

... then again, not really interested in the covers, just want to read.
Some do. If the book was created in the last few years and cover art was available from the original book scanned, it should have a cover.
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Old 07-19-2015, 11:36 PM   #198
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Some do. If the book was created in the last few years and cover art was available from the original book scanned, it should have a cover.
Thanks. It's good to know that information.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:57 AM   #199
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Thanks. It's good to know that information.
But I don't think it would keep me from reading a book that sounds interesting or has a 'pre sold' reputation.

If a book is for sale, it NEEDS an attractive WELL DESIGNED cover. It is an indication of how seriously the author/publisher takes his/her work. An indication of overall seriousness of intent to me.
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But I don't think it would keep me from reading a book that sounds interesting or has a 'pre sold' reputation.

If a book is for sale, it NEEDS an attractive WELL DESIGNED cover. It is an indication of how seriously the author/publisher takes his/her work. An indication of overall seriousness of intent to me.
Sorry, I may not have been clear . . . . I wasn't saying that I thought that it was good that some books do not have covers, I was just saying it is better to be informed than to be ignorant about the matter.
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Okay, we have another suggestion for a description of Krypos and similar publishers: "weird name publishers." ha. Shall we have a contest to determine what we officially call these publishers, on Mobileread? If so, here are the first two suggestions:
1. Premium Public Domain Publishers.
2. Weird Name Publishers.
Would other Mobilereaders like to weigh in?
In the computing world publishers who sold floppies and CDs full of public domain software were known as Shovelware Publishers, so in that light I submit the following:
Shovelbook Publishers
Shovelprint Publishers
Shovelworks Publishers

with my preference being Shovelworks Publishers.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:54 PM   #202
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Hope-you're-too-dumb-to-notice-it's-online-elsewhere-for-free Opportunistic Publishers.

Too long, I know.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:38 PM   #203
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In the computing world publishers who sold floppies and CDs full of public domain software were known as Shovelware Publishers, so in that light I submit the following:
Shovelbook Publishers
Shovelprint Publishers
Shovelworks Publishers

with my preference being Shovelworks Publishers.
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Hope-you're-too-dumb-to-notice-it's-online-elsewhere-for-free Opportunistic Publishers.

Too long, I know.
I'll add those to the list. So far we have the following suggestions to describe Krypos and similar publishers. All of these are wonderful suggestions, you are to be commended.
1. Premium Public Domain Publishers.
2. Weird Name Publishers.
3. Shovelbook, Shovelprint, or Shovelworks Publishers (with the suggester's preference, "Shovelworks," being duly noted).
4. Hope-you're-too-dumb-to-notice-it's-online-elsewhere-for-free Opportunistic Publishers.

Being so very humble and modest as I am, I forgot to include my suggestion earlier:
5. Cleaned-up-public-domain-books republishers.

Please, if you make a suggestion, give lots of thought to it, as the one chosen will be the official Mobileread way of designating these publishers for all eternity. (ha)
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:23 PM   #204
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Being so very humble and modest as I am, I forgot to include my suggestion earlier:
5. Supposedly Cleaned-up-public-domain-books republishers.
FTFY
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Old 07-20-2015, 09:28 PM   #205
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But I don't think it would keep me from reading a book that sounds interesting or has a 'pre sold' reputation.

If a book is for sale, it NEEDS an attractive WELL DESIGNED cover. It is an indication of how seriously the author/publisher takes his/her work. An indication of overall seriousness of intent to me.
Project Gutenberg books are (generally) created by volunteers scanning, converting, and proofreading public domain books. Early PG books were text only, and had their illustrations stripped because of the technology constraints of the time. Many of the sources are with blank covers, rebound library copies or missing the original dust jacket. I also think a lot of non-fiction didn't get an illustrated cover a century ago. PG doesn't sell their ebooks, they're all free to download. If cover art is that important to you, you can always download the freebie from PG and see if Calibre can find a cover for you.
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Could it be:
PD Scam Publishers?
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Ok, I'll get into the spirit of the matter:


By the way, the correct spelling is this: Kypros.

------Text deleted due to the sensitive nature of Publishers who use horrible, outlandish, poor, crappy covers.

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Could it be:
PD Scam Publishers?
"PD Scam Publishers," duly noted.

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Ok, I'll get into the spirit of the matter:
This is good. That means that we might avoid getting chastised for being with this discussion.

[QUOTE]
By the way, the correct spelling is this: Kypros.
[/QUOTED]

Thanks. I was going by memory. That's dangerous at my age. ha
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[QUOTE=GtrsRGr8;3137922]This is good. That means that we might avoid getting chastised for being with this discussion.

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By the way, the correct spelling is this: Kypros.
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Thanks. I was going by memory. That's dangerous at my age. ha

Well.....if someone complains, we'll have to move on...
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