Windows 10 - free upgrade to those with PC using Windows 7 or 8 - Page 65

fjtorres · 07-15-2015, 05:18 PM

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...tag=TREc64629f

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Two weeks ahead of the global launch of Windows 10, Microsoft has finalized the terms of its license agreements for the new operating system. I've had several days to study the documents in detail, and I can report that there are no surprises, no gotchas, and no hidden subscription traps waiting to be sprung in two or three or four years.

Sorry to disappoint you, conspiracy theorists.

Microsoft has consistently said that its new "Windows as a service" model doesn't change the basic licensing terms for Windows. Based on these documents, that's still true.

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Here's what's new:

Activation and licensing status when upgrading from a non-genuine copy of Windows.

As usual, the license agreement allows the right to install and run Windows on a single licensed device. It also requires activation, a process that is automatic on most devices from large OEMs. The new agreement adds this clause: "Updating or upgrading from non-genuine software with software from Microsoft or authorized sources does not make your original version or the updated/upgraded version genuine, and in that situation, you do not have a license to use the software."

Transfer rights.

I heard some observers speculate that the new terms would limit Windows 10 transfer rights. Nope. The new license agreement preserves the longstanding transfer rights: OEM copies are locked to the device on which they're sold, retail copies can be transferred to a different device as long as the old copy is removed first. (The Windows 10 EULA includes a specific exception for PC buyers in Germany, who are allowed to transfer OEM software thanks to a court ruling.)

Downgrade rights.

As with all recent Windows releases, buying a PC with a Professional version of Windows installed by the OEM includes the right to downgrade to either of the two earlier versions, in this case Windows 7 Professional or Windows 8.1 Pro. The new agreement specifies an end date for those downgrade rights, which are valid "only for so long as Microsoft provides support for that earlier version." Under the 10-year Microsoft support lifecycle , that means downgrade rights for Windows 7 end in January 2020, and the clock runs out on Windows 8.1 in January 2023.

Automatic updates.

For consumers and small business, Windows 10 delivers automatic updates, with no option to selectively delay or reject individual updates. "The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. ... By accepting this agreement, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice." Business customers have additional management options through the Windows Update for Business program, and enterprise customers can assign mission-critical devices to the Long Term Servicing Branch, which includes only security fixes and not feature updates.

No Commercial Use Rights for Office products.

Some Windows 10 editions will include Microsoft Office programs. As with Windows RT, those products are limited to personal and noncommercial use. Businesses need to have an Office 365 Business subscription or assign a perpetual Office license to the device.

More at the source.

cvkemp · 07-15-2015, 07:19 PM

I just got an update to Build 10240 and it no longs shows to be a preview copy of windows 10, it shows up as a full version of windows 10 pro. I have not had time to see what else is different except that it also shows to be fully activated.

cvkemp · 07-16-2015, 10:49 AM

I have a Dell all in one desktop that I got with 8.0 then updated to 8.1 it was always very slow due to I believe to be a very slow hard drive. With 8.1 the drive was always running at close to 100%. I have been preview testing 10 on this computer since build 10130 and it has been running much faster and the hard drive no longer runs at a high percentage. And believe it or not I did an upgrade and not a fresh install. I just had to much on the computer to wipe it out. The latest build that I have is 10240 and it does not show to be a preview anymore. I am guessing this is the first RTM version of windows 10. I already have received a major security update this morning only 16 hours after the upgrade to the latest build.

kennyc · 07-16-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cvkemp

I just got an update to Build 10240 and it no longs shows to be a preview copy of windows 10, it shows up as a full version of windows 10 pro. I have not had time to see what else is different except that it also shows to be fully activated.

Yep, I saw this elsewhere as well. Apparently you can download the final version already.

http://www.bidnessetc.com/47841-micr...ild-finalized/

HarryT · 07-16-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cvkemp

And believe it or not I did an upgrade and not a fresh install.

Why do you think we wouldn't believe you? Upgrading an o/s is an entirely reasonable thing to do.

cvkemp · 07-16-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why do you think we wouldn't believe you? Upgrading an o/s is an entirely reasonable thing to do.

I have always believed that the only way to go was a fresh clean install. Why I was an IT Engineer for years and that was just the way we did it. But back then I had a whole network of servers that I could use to back up my data too.

kennyc · 07-16-2015, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Why do you think we wouldn't believe you? Upgrading an o/s is an entirely reasonable thing to do.

Uhhh.....remember this is WINDOWS we are talking about.

I've 'upgraded' a few times, but always had much better results when wiping and installing fresh.

HarryT · 07-16-2015, 11:10 AM

I've done many Windows upgrades. Never had a problem with it.

wodin · 07-16-2015, 12:51 PM

An upgrade can inherit a plethora of configuration issues, a clean install is just that; clean.

WT Sharpe · 07-16-2015, 01:22 PM

We're getting close to the release.

cvkemp · 07-16-2015, 01:28 PM

For the ones of you that are interested the RTM build number for windows 10 is 10240 and that is the build that I am running at this time on two of my systems.

Jack Torrance · 07-16-2015, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cvkemp

For the ones of you that are interested the RTM build number for windows 10 is 10240 and that is the build that I am running at this time on two of my systems.

Will the RTM build 10240 expire? I checked on my w10 version last night and it wouldn't upgrade to 10240 as apparently MS has put a hold on upgrades for a while.

Though I get the impression that even if you are running the RTM it will eventually expire as it's still an evaluation copy and you will have to go through the process of a wipe, reload of 7-8 and then upgrade.

cvkemp · 07-16-2015, 08:01 PM

I update came yesterday. And it say fully activated. And it does not show to be a preview it shows to be windows 10 pro

wodin · 07-16-2015, 08:06 PM

And BGR's answer to Gordon Kelly's Forbs article that I posted earlier.

Purple Lady · 07-16-2015, 09:42 PM

I don't want automatic updates so I'm glad I have Win 7 Pro. I'm not updating to Lollipop on my Android devices because the bright white backgrounds make my vision go double. I waited until someone hacked Dolphin browser to be able to use flash before updating to Kitkat. Updates are not always good. I always choose the security updates for my laptop, but I want to be able to choose other updates.

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07-15-2015, 07:19 PM	#962
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I just got an update to Build 10240 and it no longs shows to be a preview copy of windows 10, it shows up as a full version of windows 10 pro. I have not had time to see what else is different except that it also shows to be fully activated.

07-16-2015, 10:49 AM	#963
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I have a Dell all in one desktop that I got with 8.0 then updated to 8.1 it was always very slow due to I believe to be a very slow hard drive. With 8.1 the drive was always running at close to 100%. I have been preview testing 10 on this computer since build 10130 and it has been running much faster and the hard drive no longer runs at a high percentage. And believe it or not I did an upgrade and not a fresh install. I just had to much on the computer to wipe it out. The latest build that I have is 10240 and it does not show to be a preview anymore. I am guessing this is the first RTM version of windows 10. I already have received a major security update this morning only 16 hours after the upgrade to the latest build.

07-16-2015, 11:10 AM	#968
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,557 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I've done many Windows upgrades. Never had a problem with it.

07-16-2015, 12:51 PM	#969
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	An upgrade can inherit a plethora of configuration issues, a clean install is just that; clean.

07-16-2015, 01:22 PM	#970
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	We're getting close to the release.

07-16-2015, 01:28 PM	#971
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	For the ones of you that are interested the RTM build number for windows 10 is 10240 and that is the build that I am running at this time on two of my systems.

07-16-2015, 08:01 PM	#973
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I update came yesterday. And it say fully activated. And it does not show to be a preview it shows to be windows 10 pro

07-16-2015, 08:06 PM	#974
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	And BGR's answer to Gordon Kelly's Forbs article that I posted earlier.

07-16-2015, 09:42 PM	#975
Purple Lady Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,698 Karma: 16542228 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Device: Huawei MediaPad M5, LG V30, Boyue T80S, Nexus 7 LTE, K3 3G, Fire HD8	I don't want automatic updates so I'm glad I have Win 7 Pro. I'm not updating to Lollipop on my Android devices because the bright white backgrounds make my vision go double. I waited until someone hacked Dolphin browser to be able to use flash before updating to Kitkat. Updates are not always good. I always choose the security updates for my laptop, but I want to be able to choose other updates.